well that depends, if it is variable deflection in the material, the deflection response change will have to occur over a much narrower load range and if they achieve that, won't the test just be changed again.
Hungarian Grand Prix 2010, Hungaroring Circuit - Race 12/19
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well that depends, if it is variable deflection in the material, the deflection response change will have to occur over a much narrower load range and if they achieve that, won't the test just be changed again.
Wow, this photo shows how close it actually was.
then barrichello should learn if there isnt room dont try to force a way through...
he choose to go off the race track rather than lift so its his own fault, barrichello has even done the same to another driver
if it were grass he wouldnt have gone off the race track but as it was tarmac....
to me its as bad a cutting a chicane but formula one isnt about racing its about letting the car which is currently traveling faster than you past, its a joke.
isnt it funny how these mirrors that have a very crap field of view behind the car suddenly offer some massive panoramic view when its schumacher.
schumacher was already drifting towards the wall when barrichello choose to enter a closing gap, he did it on purpose because he holds a grudge from his whipping boy years at ferrari , hes no idiot he knew if he caused an accident schumacher would get the blame and he could whinge as usual and look like the good guy.
we dont forget brazil where you did the exact same move rubens!
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He did not put him in the wall though, he left just enough room. For what it's worth I thought Schumacher was too aggressive in defending his position, my point is the inconsistency in the stewards decisions. Kovaleinin was in far more danger than Barrichelo and this is F1, the pinnacle of motorsport so don't give me "caught napping" as an excuse.
well Schumi never really understood the idea of racing, did he?
either Schumi wins or nobody does.
he should retire again before he hurts somebody, all he is doing is reacerting his reputation.
How do you think Schumi would have reacted to that. remember him trying to punch Coulthard at spa.
Senna was just as bad, but became a legend by dieing.
even a schumacher hater can clearly see from rubens onboard schumacher is drifting towards the wall....
why does barrichello decide to enter a closing gap its not as if schumacher sudenly drove towards the wall.
go ask hamilton about brazil last year where lap after lap barrichello pinned him against the wall
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lol at the people defending Schumacher and trying to place the blame on Rubens, just L O L
Um....so he does understand the idea of racing then.
haha
what are you on about
i suspect hes refering to the glorious senna who once said "either i win or nobody does"
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We know he was trying to block off the right side so he'd still be able to defend the line and position at the corner if Barri had gone to the left. He didn't close it off enough and then instead of accepting he'd left too much space he continued to close it down when it was clearly becoming dangerous.
You'd think he'd have realised by now that the other drivers aren't just going to sit behind him because he used to be great. Speed rather than reputation gets the points, especially when you no longer have the speed.
You'd think he'd have realised by now that the other drivers aren't just going to sit behind him because he used to be great. Speed rather than reputation gets the points, especially when you no longer have the speed.
what are you on about
It's racing. You win at all costs. Otherwise what's the point?
Yes, it'd be great if everyone who raced was basically a clone of Sir Stirling Moss. But it's never going to happen. You need to be a bit dastardly occasionally in order to stay ahead.
Are you going to defend MSC vigorously?
In 2006 at Brazil, didn't Kimi move over to the wall so Schumacher couldn't get past? Yet Schumacher still got through and took the place. Everyone does it.
It's clear to see that Schumacher was ALWAYS going to take the inside line here, it's the only way he could have kept the place. Also Schumacher left a RB car sized gap.
Yes, this was 'fairly' dangerous, but it has been blown out of proportion because it's Schumacher. Everything always is when it's him.
It's clear to see that Schumacher was ALWAYS going to take the inside line here, it's the only way he could have kept the place. Also Schumacher left a RB car sized gap.
Yes, this was 'fairly' dangerous, but it has been blown out of proportion because it's Schumacher. Everything always is when it's him.
exactly the gap was small but people forget these guys aim for an apex of a corner thats only a few mm to get the perfect line.
its not as dangerous as it looked
even a schumacher hater can clearly see from rubens onboard schumacher is drifting towards the wall....
why does barrichello decide to enter a closing gap its not as if schumacher sudenly drove towards the wall.
go ask hamilton about brazil last year where lap after lap barrichello pinned him against the wall
He entered a gap because he didn't expect MS to completely move over on him, more fool rubens but MS should leave him a gap once he's alongside. Once rubens is alongside continuing to move over will cause and accident or cause a driver to be run off the road. At that point rubens cannot back out because their wheels are interlocked. Something MS knows is dnagerous the amount he bleated about wanting the wheels covered up.
I agree with you that Rubens has done the same himself, loads of them have. I have no problem with MS penalty if this is whats to come. Otherwise they are just singling out MS, who although the worst of the lot isn't the only one by a long shot.
What a stupid statement, I'm sorry but it is. You dont win at all costs. So lets say that little game was for first place. MS drives rubens into the wall and he has a big accident. Rubens loses his life. Yet MS wins the race.
Does he stand over Rubens body like ivan drago, "if he dies he dies"
To say you win at all costs is BS. I find it hard to believe that someone who watched some of the greats with such a depth of knowledge of drivers that respected another rivals car width would come out with such a statement.
Are you for real?
Where exactly on the race track in the picture below has MS left rubens a car sized gap. You do know what those white lines are right?
You do know what would have happened had a car been coming down the pitlane? He forced Rubens off the racetrack and into the pit exit.
