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HUNGARORING - BUDAPEST - HUNGARY Grand Prix 2009 - Race 10/17
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Glad to see you admitting it, mate. Admitting you have a problem is the first step in solving it
Not sure if already posted, but the onboard with the FOM info shows he was braking and accelerating, as suspected.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/...ter-being-struck-by-debris-during-qualifying/
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/...ter-being-struck-by-debris-during-qualifying/
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"Massa has been woken, given a second brain scan and put back to sleep again. The first scan last night was clear." -- JA Twitter
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He must have been out cold!
Anyways whats your predictions for today?? I think Alonso will be off first corner and Hamilton will take the lead
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From James Allen's Twitter
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"Willi Weber has ruled out a Michael Schumacher return to Ferrari, according to La Gazzetta dello Sport" -- JA Twitter
Shame.
Shame.
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do we have to see that picture again? :/
Hope Felipe makes a speedy and complete recovery. Sounds like Badoer or Gene might be taking over for the next few races. Personally I would keep Massa out of the car for the rest of the season, not as if Ferrari are fighting for anything at the moment.
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Allen's view on how the GP will unfold..
Today’s Hungarian GP will be an intriguing contest. On the face of it a fight between the two Red Bull drivers for victory, but with potential for Lewis Hamilton and McLaren to cause an upset, particularly at the start.
The KERS in Hamilton’s car will give him about 18 metres advantage on the run down to Turn 1. It’s more of a help here than it was in Germany and we saw what devastation the KERS cars inflicted there on the championship contenders. Starting 6th and 7th Heikki Kovalainen and Kimi Raikkonen also have the potential to get involved in the action at the front.
Jenson Button’s race depends a lot on the outcome of that first corner, if there is an incident he may be well placed to benefit, starting from 8th place. He also has 22 laps of fuel in the car, far more than his rivals and his car will manage the tyres better than them over a stint in the high temperatures expected today. A podium is the target, anything else a bonus, particularly if Hamilton takes any points from the Red Bulls. The pace of the Brawns is the subject of a lot of doubt here. Rival teams think that they are not that fast here, but the team say that their race pace is strong, especially in the heat.
I’m fascinated by the battle for victory between Webber and Vettel. The advantage swings between them from race to race. In Silverstone it was Vettel, in Germany Webber, here it seemed to be Webber until Q3, when Webber made a mistake and Vettel did a great lap. Today is a battle for supremacy, with the possible complication of Hamilton at the start thrown in. Hamilton is stopping on lap 16, only a lap earlier than Webber and two before Vettel. That’s where they need to jump him, if he gets ahead at the start.
Tyres are key today; no-one is very happy about the soft tyre and it’s hard to get the supersoft to last over a stint. The track temperature is high, 41 degrees two hours before the race. That’s one of the reasons why Alonso has gone for three stops. Brawn feel they can manage the tyres, hence Barrichello going to lap 32.
Today’s Hungarian GP will be an intriguing contest. On the face of it a fight between the two Red Bull drivers for victory, but with potential for Lewis Hamilton and McLaren to cause an upset, particularly at the start.
The KERS in Hamilton’s car will give him about 18 metres advantage on the run down to Turn 1. It’s more of a help here than it was in Germany and we saw what devastation the KERS cars inflicted there on the championship contenders. Starting 6th and 7th Heikki Kovalainen and Kimi Raikkonen also have the potential to get involved in the action at the front.
Jenson Button’s race depends a lot on the outcome of that first corner, if there is an incident he may be well placed to benefit, starting from 8th place. He also has 22 laps of fuel in the car, far more than his rivals and his car will manage the tyres better than them over a stint in the high temperatures expected today. A podium is the target, anything else a bonus, particularly if Hamilton takes any points from the Red Bulls. The pace of the Brawns is the subject of a lot of doubt here. Rival teams think that they are not that fast here, but the team say that their race pace is strong, especially in the heat.
I’m fascinated by the battle for victory between Webber and Vettel. The advantage swings between them from race to race. In Silverstone it was Vettel, in Germany Webber, here it seemed to be Webber until Q3, when Webber made a mistake and Vettel did a great lap. Today is a battle for supremacy, with the possible complication of Hamilton at the start thrown in. Hamilton is stopping on lap 16, only a lap earlier than Webber and two before Vettel. That’s where they need to jump him, if he gets ahead at the start.
Tyres are key today; no-one is very happy about the soft tyre and it’s hard to get the supersoft to last over a stint. The track temperature is high, 41 degrees two hours before the race. That’s one of the reasons why Alonso has gone for three stops. Brawn feel they can manage the tyres, hence Barrichello going to lap 32.
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I'm glad Massa is ok, by the sounds of it, it could have been a lot worse!
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"Formula 1 is to conduct an investigation into the accident in which Ferrari driver Felipe Massa suffered a fractured skull."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8169206.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8169206.stm
Jenson needs the start of his life or Lewis to take out half the grid at the start. If he can stay close enough with all that fuel he may stand a chance of the podium, if they do have the race pace. He needs those red bulls eating tyres behind lewis.
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What the hell are they going to do, bar make f1 a closed vehicle championship.
This is a racing accident, the drivers know they put their lives at risk when racing.
Now the health and safety muppets will be out and will try to ruin f1 more.
I expect their answer will be lower speeds....
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Weekend goes from bad to worse.
Hungarian GP chiefs have signed a deal that their race contract has been extended to 2016
Why bad? Hungaroring is awesome
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Overtaking is overrated anyway.
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They'd lose too many fans if they lowered speeds, besides, even if Massa was going at 120mph he'd still be in Hospital right now.
Accidents in motor racing are always going to happen, they're an inevitable, albeit tragic side effect of the sport.
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I don't see a problem with bringing back a small 'wind visor' type screen. Which, provided they are made of a properly tested and certified material, should have prevented or at least reduced the magnitude of the Massa incident.
They use to have those in the golden eras anyway...
They definitely need to do something about the "unconcious driver + throttle stuck open" situation though. That needs to be fixed in time for 2010 season. There needs to be a G meter or something inside the helmet. And when that gets tripped the car needs to go into a safe mode. And perhaps even give some visual indication - e.g. turn on the rear flashing fog light?
They use to have those in the golden eras anyway...
They definitely need to do something about the "unconcious driver + throttle stuck open" situation though. That needs to be fixed in time for 2010 season. There needs to be a G meter or something inside the helmet. And when that gets tripped the car needs to go into a safe mode. And perhaps even give some visual indication - e.g. turn on the rear flashing fog light?