In Mensa!

2 jobs in the past 6 years, contiguous. Isn't that just amazing? :confused:

I still fail to see the point you're making, or why I couldn't possibly have a job...

And thanks, sunama, someone's talking sense for the first time in this thread :rolleyes:
 
sunama said:
Okay, my mistake...he is in his 20's, but looks young, none the less.

Is there any reason to take such offence to him believing that he is "all that"? Why the personal attacks?

If someone thinks that they are "all that", sometimes it is best to just leave them be. By him believing that he is "all that", he isn't hurting anybody...right?
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Some people just need to be taken down a peg or two! You say he is in his twenties:eek:, I thought he was about sixteen lol.
 
sunama said:
Okay, my mistake...he is in his 20's, but looks young, none the less.

Is there any reason to take such offence to him believing that he is "all that"? Why the personal attacks?

If someone thinks that they are "all that", sometimes it is best to just leave them be. By him believing that he is "all that", he isn't hurting anybody...right?
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You're asking the wrong person, I was just pointing out that it wasn't a bunch of adults bullying a defenceless young child as you had implied. ;)
 
Guys, I think you are being a little harsh on him.

Everybody has hopes/aspirations/dreams/ambitions. To belittle someone just because they drive a fork lift truck, IMO is wrong.

The_Sophisticate, if you really do have a high IQ, you will score high in logic. Computer programming requires oodles of logic. Question: Can you program?
 
sunama said:
Guys, I think you are being a little harsh on him.

Everybody has hopes/aspirations/dreams/ambitions. To belittle someone just because they drive a fork lift truck, IMO is wrong.

The_Sophisticate, if you really do have a high IQ, you will score high in logic. Computer programming requires oodles of logic. Question: Can you program?
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I can, but I hated it. Well, enjoyed the rubik's cube kind of puzzle problem solving, but just found it dull. :( Forklifting is surprisingly mentally stimulating. Like most I didn't expect much from it, but it keeps me awake at night! (mainly because I work nights :rolleyes:)
 
dowie said:
I'll call BS on that one - they're controversial as measures of intelligence and 'intelligence' itself is an ill defined subject. They measure certain aspects of what might be described as 'intelligence' but essentially IQ is just a measure of IQ. They were originally designed to identify kids with special needs. FWIW Binet himself didn't agree that they measured intelligence.
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Yet Psychometric measurements are used across educational and psychological fields globally.

Binet did not believe that intelligence was a single unitary construct and I agree. This is why I defined intelligence within a very narrow parameter for the purpose of this argument. Something everyone is ignoring or cannot seem to comprehend.

To make a defined argument as to the specificity of IQ as a level indicator across a wider definition of intelligence we would have to address each psychometric test in isolation, and how the test relates to cognition and their efficacy in predicting behavioural and social outcomes. For the purposes of my argument the 'g' factor or general factor of intelligence is sufficiently accepted to be a valid predictor of general intelligence.

To discuss the wider interpretation of intelligence, we would need to begin a thread dedicated to that one subject as some of the controversies surrounding the application and use of IQ values are wide ranging and complex. We would also need to consider other cognitive and developmental approaches to psychometrics and the social, ethical and environmental questions that it throws up.




dowie said:
'the percentile bell curve' - are you American? I guess some people refer to it as a Gaussian or normal distribution others simply as the bell curve but that's a new one...
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Sorry it should have read Percentile Rank of a bell curve. I do not see what having American heritage has to do with anything however, unless it is a precursor to you indicating some form of stereotype to undermine my argument somehow, I would be disappointed if it were.
 
The_Sophisticate said:
Just a side track thought I had, and you appear to be more of an authority on IQ than I, but is perception linked at all?
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I am hardly an authority, I just like debating stuff. What do you mean by perception exactly? your personal perception or external perception of a given analysis?

The_Sophisticate said:
I only ask because of a few oddities: I can generally tell what handedness a person is, I only took 6 2h driving lessons before taking my test never having driven anything prior, and, loosely associated to driving, passed the 5 day forklift course in fewer than 5 days.
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12 hours driving tuition is nothing special if you consider that I passed my Driving Test within 3 hours of lessons and the test, (although I admit to failing the first test on what I consider a technicality). I don't attribute this to anything other than having an affinity for driving rather than an indicator of intellect.


The_Sophisticate said:
Not bragging or looking for acceptance or crying for attention :rolleyes: Just given the IQ result I received, just curious if they're linked. Subsequently, depending on your answer, is it possible to have high IQ and low perceptive/learning capacities, or vice versa?
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Under what conditions did you take the exam, and what did the exam consist of. Also what was the specific score in relation to?
 
The_Sophisticate said:
but that's if the pages and pages of certificates of key skills level 3 in about 10 different modules that I got with my ND in IT don't get the job first :rolleyes:
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A simple photo of the mentioned pages and pages of certificates along with your forklifk certification will be enough to convince me :) you already took a snap of 'yourself' so the task shouldn't be too sophisticated for you.


I personally think you have just dug yourself into a hole you never expected and can't get yourself out.
 
I think you guys should give him a break.

@ The sophisticate

I've been thinking of taking a Mensa test and was wondering if you could give me some advice on taking pictures of my wang.
 
sunama said:
Guys, I think you are being a little harsh on him.

Everybody has hopes/aspirations/dreams/ambitions. To belittle someone just because they drive a fork lift truck, IMO is wrong.

The_Sophisticate, if you really do have a high IQ, you will score high in logic. Computer programming requires oodles of logic. Question: Can you program?
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No one's having a go for the sake of having a go. It's the same old "I can say what I want, isn't anonymity excellent?"

"Oh noes! I've been found out."




"Hey look guise! I just spent 3/4 of a grand on a new suit! Aren't I just the best? Watch while I play with a cardboard box."

:o
 
Moses99p said:
But where, and in what role? I'm sure there was talk of you wanting to be an investment banker, in the past... then there was a link to thread about you wanting to get into Cambridge's medical school... but at the mo you drive forklift trucks? Weird.
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I like numbers, as such I'm taking distance learning A levels in Maths, Business studies and accountancy, with a view to go onto an ACCA/ACA course. Really enjoying the accountancy course. Though I have my doubts about it for a career, so may go for management accounting post a levels to get a role in a company rather just auditing companies for an accountacy.

As for medical school, that will remain a closed book for me as I can't do a level chemistry anywhere near me, nor is it offered as a distance learning course for lab work requirements :(
 
Moses99p said:
Open University, or student finance funded foundation year/pre-med course of some kind.
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Trust me, I've looked at all possible entry points, even graduate entry still needs A level chem. Plus since they're not lacking in candidates to fill medical degrees, they have no reason to offer foundation years or whatever. The GMC is trying to change this with the "widening access to medicine" programme, but it hasn't done nearly enough as it was intended to do to help people in my situation.

So, just accept and look at something else that piques my interest, and that's something in business finance.
 
Castiel said:
Binet did not believe that intelligence was a single unitary construct and I agree. This is why I defined intelligence within a very narrow parameter for the purpose of this argument. Something everyone is ignoring or cannot seem to comprehend.
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Well if you want to define intelligence as what IQ tests measure then IQ tests do indeed measure intelligence. However, ill defined as it is, 'intelligence' is a broad and complex area that to try and quantify it as a single parameter such as 'IQ' isn't possible.


I do not see what having American heritage has to do with anything however, unless it is a precursor to you indicating some form of stereotype to undermine my argument somehow, I would be disappointed if it were.
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I was just curious, some Americans IME sometimes tend to try too hard to sound 'intelligent' to the point where they end up making words up.
 
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