Soldato
Yea so we don't have as much as France Germany Belgium etc
Incident outside parliament in london - developing now
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Let's work through this slowly so everyone can hopefully keep up......
The UK hasn't taken the most asylum seekers either as a total number or as a fraction of their existing population. However when compared to the countries in 'the rest of Europe' as you did we take more than average hence your statement is demonstrably false.
Doesn't exactly sound as though he was particularly skilled in areas useful to the UK economy?
Looks like his asylum claim was one of thoose totally justifiable legitimate ones /sarcasm
If Sudan after eight years is safe enough for him to want to make a visit to its safe enough for him to be returned to.....
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Just an other ticking time bomb that finally blow up, an other refugee that stabbed us in the back like the Manchester bomber who we saved from Libya back in 2014.
He is not the first, nor the last one. There will be an other one, there are always are.
In the end, we let too many people inside this country.
He is not the first, nor the last one. There will be an other one, there are always are.
In the end, we let too many people inside this country.
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Interesting fella, seemingly trying to get an education but something this year must have happened to him and lead him down this path.
Apparently he was thrown out in May after flunking his first year (unverified).
Edit: Just reading that apparently (again unverified) his father had passed away earlier this year...
Apart from that graph isn't backing up your argument. That is just showing first time asylum applications, that doesn't tell you how many each country accepted.
We have quite a high refusal rate for first time asylum applications when compared to the rest of the EU
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis...on-EU)_asylum_applications,_2017_(%)_YB18.png
You're still probably right, you just need a different source
It also muddies the waters a little if talking about total applications/accepted in one year, as they make a distinction between that and first time applications, as you can appeal the first decision. I think we rise to about 50% of total applications accepted then
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ny-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to
Goodness me. Brexit propaganda STILL working I see. Too many immigrants lol.
Anyway terrorism is being passed into hands of regular people. The media tells nobodies that they can be up there with the best terrorists. Look when 9/11 happened, do you think this idiot could have been a part of that? NO. But the media tells people that they just need to do ISIS "style" attacks to be top terrorists with NO ACTUAL CONTACT WITH THEM.
Next time someone mows down a dozen cyclists they're suddenly a terrorist working for ISIS? Why the **** are we helping attribute things to ISIS?
Anyway terrorism is being passed into hands of regular people. The media tells nobodies that they can be up there with the best terrorists. Look when 9/11 happened, do you think this idiot could have been a part of that? NO. But the media tells people that they just need to do ISIS "style" attacks to be top terrorists with NO ACTUAL CONTACT WITH THEM.
Next time someone mows down a dozen cyclists they're suddenly a terrorist working for ISIS? Why the **** are we helping attribute things to ISIS?
Is circa 200-300k net immigrants in the UK sustainable or desirable.
Exactly how may is too many?
With Unemployment at it's lowest... how the **** is that a legitimate complaint?
So how about housing, infrastructure, social cohesion, protection of the enviroment etc?
Yes. Population of UK is about 65,000,000. 200,000 immigrants is pretty much nothing.
Also, if there are 200,000 immigrants in the uk, why aren't there 200,000 terrorist attacks?
All literally our governments fault as well as people voting in these ingrates who actively keep housing demand high/supply low, actively destroy infrastructure for ideological reasons, cause social tension be saying stupid **** and protecting the environment... i wont even.
This is what WE need to be teaching immigrants as a society. Unfortunately they come here and are dumped into areas where no one is interested and everyone is pointing the finger.
Some poor ******* has to pay for the over 65s swell, and you can bet your top dollar that it's impossible to do so with insular nationalism, even if you literally forced everyone to have children and banned foreigners from doing so... it's too bloody late.
It is a tricky one - you could diminish a lot of these acts by writing them off as mental health, etc. but then you risk pushing those with direct ISIS (or other terrorist organisations) connections/links towards trying to enact worse and worse atrocities to stand out.
A few immigrants coming over here is not the only vector which causes population growth.
How about people who churn out babies on benefits, then become single parents, then the child grows up to be a chav etc.
Blaming immigrants for everything is just an blaming/externalisation mechanism.
What's the ratio of 'supporters' to 'dependants'?
If the ratio is higher towards supporters, i.e. for arguments sake lets say you need 2 supporters to every dependant. Then this is going to cycle on as a massive ponzi scheme, because the 2 supporters are going to become dependants, and then you'll need 4 supporters for those 2 and on and on we go. If this isn't sourced from the supporters breeding like rabbits (which coincidentally also makes more dependants because children are too) but by immigration, what about all the dependants the immigrants are leaving behind in the nations they're leaving?
The solutions unfortunately are: raise the retirement age (not going to win any elections), and lessen benefits for the elderly (again not going to win any elections). Another solution is for a whole generation to take a massive tax hike for one generation to pay off the huge ageing population and to then ensure we have a relatively even distribution of people throughout the age demographics, but again no one is going to vote for this or advocate it because it borders on Chinese style family policy and eugenics. Basically, population growth is eventually going to become a huge issue, and no ones doing anything about it.
I don't think I was claiming all migrant are terrorists?
In 2016 there was 774,835 live births (ONS figures) and 28.2% of thoose live births were to women born outside the UK (218,503)
Net migration that year was 'down' to 248,000
So total 'new' population that year was 1,022,835 of which the component for UK born mothers was 556,332 so we are at a point where people coming into the UK and children born to non UK mothers will outnumber children born to UK mothers. How's integration going to work out with figures like that?
You completely avoided answering my question.