Afaik, they're a different architecture and a new manufacturing process, but since we don't know why the 13th-14th gen CPUs are problematic, there's no way of knowing until months after release. The 13900K issues took quite awhile to be widely reported.
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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851
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Yes, optimistically the only bearing the 13/14th problems have on Arrow Lake are:
- Validation gets stepped up before the release
- Final clocks and power usage is far saner than the emergency editions - and hopefully this time if the Marketeers find out that they won't be at the top of review bars, they won't do something crazy like 5% extra performance for 50% more power.
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You might know after 3 months of running it, or 6, or 9, or 12.......
When and if you do get it the first thing that i would do is loop it in Cinebench R24 over night, but you don't have to go that extreme, if it crashes in under 2 hours send it back.
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Yes, just interested as to whether this is going to impact the roll out of their next CPU. If there is an inherent defect it would be mad of them to add to their woes. I wasn't considering intel this time around as have been very happy with my 5900x and will be jumping on AM5 next year.
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That is a very interesting question.
I don't know what's worse, did they know these CPU's were faulty and they put them out anyway, or they didn't know.
This is not the first time Intel are out of their comfort zone in being forced to keep up with a competitor and i've been around long enough to have read the story before.
But i don't know what they would do, so..... *Shrug*
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Some people hold Intel in very high regard, i don't, they achieved one thing and one thing only, and that was only because IBM didn't want to give their money to Exxon being the parent company of Zilog and threatening IBM, Zilog made a better chip for the job than Intel.
Every other thing they tried has been a catastrophic failure, as i said they never made the best stuff at any point, Intel's success is directly attributed to IBM and IBM chose Intel because it was at war with the parent company of the better chip.
When Intel wanted to prove it wasn't a fluke they ended up licencing AMD's stuff and still do to this day.
Every other thing they tried has been a catastrophic failure, as i said they never made the best stuff at any point, Intel's success is directly attributed to IBM and IBM chose Intel because it was at war with the parent company of the better chip.
When Intel wanted to prove it wasn't a fluke they ended up licencing AMD's stuff and still do to this day.
Intel Arrow Lake-S Desktop CPUs Come In 24 Core "Core Ultra 9", 20 Core "Core Ultra 7" & Up To 14 Core "Core Ultra 5" Variants
The CPU configurations of Intel's Arrow Lake-S "Core Ultra" Desktop CPUs have been revealed, offering up to 8 P-Cores & 16 E-Cores.
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Intel Arrow Lake-S Desktop CPUs Come In 24 Core "Core Ultra 9", 20 Core "Core Ultra 7" & Up To 14 Core "Core Ultra 5" Variants
The CPU configurations of Intel's Arrow Lake-S "Core Ultra" Desktop CPUs have been revealed, offering up to 8 P-Cores & 16 E-Cores.
Are these 125 watts in the same way the 14900K is 125 watts? IE actually reviewed at over 300 Watts. Intel also advertises that at 125 Watts, it clearly isn't.
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It is when run at that as to not too cook the CPU and be, ya know, stable!
Intel Core Ultra 9 285K rumored to boost up to 5.7 GHz - VideoCardz.com
Flagship Core Ultra 9 SKU with 5.7 GHz boost A rumor shared by OneRaichu suggests clocks will be lower on next-gen desktop CPU series. The Intel Core Ultra 9 285K is currently known as the fastest upcoming Arrow Lake-S processor. The series is said to make use of Lion Cove Performance Cores and...
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5.7Ghz one core boost and 5.4Ghz all core boost on a new process (Intel 20A?) is much more conservative compared to the 6.2Ghz nonsense of 14900KS's. Far more likely to be a cooler running and stable chip - though I wouldn't put it past Intel to make a mistake, based on recent failures
From what I'm aware, AMD vastly outsell Intel in the DIY market at the moment anyway, so I don't know why they don't pull them from sale? I certainly would.
Didn't Rocket lake generally have lower boost/base clocks than 10th gen? It makes me wonder about what buildzoid said in how Intel had lots of knowledge of how to manage their 14nm process and maybe with their newer process they've just screwed it up.Intel Core Ultra 9 285K rumored to boost up to 5.7 GHz - VideoCardz.com
Flagship Core Ultra 9 SKU with 5.7 GHz boost A rumor shared by OneRaichu suggests clocks will be lower on next-gen desktop CPU series. The Intel Core Ultra 9 285K is currently known as the fastest upcoming Arrow Lake-S processor. The series is said to make use of Lion Cove Performance Cores and...
5.7Ghz one core boost and 5.4Ghz all core boost on a new process (Intel 20A?) is much more conservative compared to the 6.2Ghz nonsense of 14900KS's. Far more likely to be a cooler running and stable chip - though I wouldn't put it past Intel to make a mistake, based on recent failures
Rocket Lake increased clocks significantly from Cometlake (10th gen).
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Didn't see this coming!
Intel to launch Bartlett-S die with 12 P-Cores for LGA1700 platform in January 2025 - VideoCardz.com
Intel LGA-1700 support to be continued Intel to support LGA-1700 with the Bartlett-S update and its brand new 12 P-Core only die. Contrary to what Intel taught us to expect from its CPU architecture planning, the LGA-1700 platform will not end with the release of Arrow Lake-S, which uses a...
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Didn't see this coming!
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Intel to launch Bartlett-S die with 12 P-Cores for LGA1700 platform in January 2025 - VideoCardz.com
Intel LGA-1700 support to be continued Intel to support LGA-1700 with the Bartlett-S update and its brand new 12 P-Core only die. Contrary to what Intel taught us to expect from its CPU architecture planning, the LGA-1700 platform will not end with the release of Arrow Lake-S, which uses a...
Didn't see this coming!
Been talked about for awhile but not much enthusiasm as it seems mostly a sidegrade at best.
Certainly something I'll keep an eye on, E cores are alright but not a perfect solution. For many applications I'd far rather have 12 proper cores. But I suspect it will probably just be very similar to the 14900KS for performance and power efficiency. (Some specific multi-thread workloads aside).
EDIT: What I find interesting on many of the forum threads on these Bartlett-S CPUs is people instead posting yearnings for the days of the X79 and X99 chipsets hah - kind of the same myself.
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Could never afford X79 or X99, was way out of my pricing range back then.
It makes it interesting though simply because it means i have another upgrade potential on my LGA1700 platform. Like yourself, i would much rather have a 12p core configuration and maybe more cache than e cores. Both for Gaming and editing/media work it's a great recipe!
