Have a 12600K and planned to buy a 14700K later but with the current issues it's pot luck if you get an Ok CPU.I would think that the 15th gen would not have the same issues as 14th but I could understand why people may be abit cautious and I'll keep my 13600K as its been 100% fine and have no real intrest in any other 13/14 gen CPU as a cpu or gpu running 250w is half my power supply budget. Kind of a blessing in disguise now thinking about it.
Best in slot CPU's for some end of life plaform's is kinda a waste of time as I bought a second hand 12600K for £210 while a second hand 9900K upgrade for my z370 was £240-280 and 7700K cpu's remained high for a very long time to the point where other AMD and intel options where better.
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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851
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Its probably wise to wary of anything that’s pushing a few hundred watts through a 15 square MM die.
While Intel silence is deafening (at least in the metaphoric way), the more people expressing pre-buyers doubts the more likely Intel are going to have to come out with proper statements and be forced to do something IMO.
90% of buyers will be completely unaware of the issue. Intel will likely ignore the issue until its costing them significant amounts of money and the accounts dept have run out of creativity.
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if all the reviews play along and don't retest all current CPUs with Intel "safe" settings (whatever those actually are!) for the upcoming reviews and continue to use unrealistic settings then Intel PR truly are all powerful!
I'm sure things will be more clear soon on whats going on as new CPU's have warranty but some people may not want to deal with RMA'ing a degraded CPU, some may want to keep the CPU for many years, have some resell value to fund a upgrade, etc..
It's rumoured Bartlett-S CPU's are due for Jan 2025 posted by Jay85 here https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...s-15th-gen-on-lga-1851.18980945/post-37259210 This really needs to happen for LGA1700 as it will be a more better ending for the platform so unless there's anything really holding back your PC with the 12600K I'll stick with what you have for the moment as Zen 5 and Arrow Lake are due and its usally nice to wait a while for new platforms to settle.
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Intel Arrow Lake-S "Core Ultra 9 285K" Desktop CPU Benchmarks Leak: Up To 18% Faster Than 14900K, Scores Over 43K In Cinebench At 250W
The first benchmarks of Intel's Core Ultra 9 285K "Arrow Lake-S" Desktop CPU flagship have been leaked by Jaykihn.
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Intel Core Ultra 9 "Arrow Lake" QS CPU tested at 250W: 4% faster than 14900K on average - VideoCardz.com
Intel Core Ultra 9 QS tested Wake up enthusiasts, there’s a new leak from Jaykihn. This leaker has provided numerous details on Intel’s upcoming hardware, including Arrow Lake, Lunar Lake, and more. The information appears very reliable and has already been partially confirmed. The latest update...
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So the Manf process is Intel 4 for the compute tile (7nm) and they still want to play the 250w game. That's a hard no from me !!!!
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INTEL FIGHTS BACK! Arrow Lake Benchmarks & Full Specs LEAK
INTEL FIGHTS BACK! Arrow Lake Benchmarks & Full Specs LEAKToday brings soem fresh leaks for Intel Arrow Lake, as we have TWO sets of performance benchmarks a...
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Intel Lunar Lake is 'almost entirely' outsourced as Panther Lake and Clearwater Forest get powered on
Intel shares progress.
However, since Lunar Lake's three tiles seem to be made at TSMC and the only thing that Intel will do for this CPU is its advanced packaging, the cost of Lunar Lake will be fairly high for Intel, and will likely impact Intel's margins in the coming year.
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So it’s going to be an expensive CPU, but who will buy it? Perfect **** storm for Intel.
But capped by what AMD is putting out, some of it will have to come from margin.
Mostly outsourced and very complex assembly requirements - this will do wonders for Intel's margins.
Rumours for Lunar Lake where that it was meant to have been a low volume halo part with the Intel parts possibly only made at the Oregon research line, but OEMs like it a lot and Intel had nothing else to sell in that segment. So apparently they spent $lots-many-many to get Ireland up and running.
Lunar Lake sounds like an Intel loss leader.
Rumours for Lunar Lake where that it was meant to have been a low volume halo part with the Intel parts possibly only made at the Oregon research line, but OEMs like it a lot and Intel had nothing else to sell in that segment. So apparently they spent $lots-many-many to get Ireland up and running.
Lunar Lake sounds like an Intel loss leader.
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Why make stuff up when you can’t keep up with the basics?
It’s Meteor Lake that’s been shifted to Ireland for additional production and yes OEM’s like it a lot.
Lunar Lake is being made at TSMC and its successor, Panther Lake will be in house again. Lunar Lake was never intended for in-house.
No need for “rumours” either as all the info is public knowledge shared directly by Intel.
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Intel says Raptor Lake microcode update will not affect overclocking and performance, new Arrow Lake/Battlemage updates - VideoCardz.com
Intel makes several claims at ASUS event in China Updates for Raptor Lake, Arrow Lake and Battlemage. Source: 小敌鸽/Weibo “小敌鸽” aka Little Pigeon is a Chinese tech blogger who has shared some first-hand information in the past. This person was invited to Intel x ASUS event (said to be an internal...
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Leaks suggesting 100W less multi-core load. Assuming there's a performance increase as well, that will be decent. Will still put Intel ahead of AMD in terms of power consumption though - as will be ~ 220W load instead of the ~320w we see now (under worst case all core loads scenario).
Intel Arrow Lake & Panther Lake Power Ratings Revealed: Top Desktop SKU Has 295W PL2, Canceled 40-Core Die Had 352W PL2 & 667W PL4 TDP
Power ratings of Intel's next-generation Arrow Lake & Panther Lake CPUs for desktop and laptops have been revealed by Jaykihn.
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Intel Postpones Innovation 2024 Event to 2025, No Word on Arrow Lake Launch
Intel announced that it has postponed the 2024 edition of its Innovation event to 2025. Among other things, the first-party event showcases innovations from the company's various business units made in the preceding year, includes a few key product launches, and teasers for what's next. The...
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Intel Arrow Lake & Panther Lake Power Ratings Revealed: Top Desktop SKU Has 295W PL2, Canceled 40-Core Die Had 352W PL2 & 667W PL4 TDP
Power ratings of Intel's next-generation Arrow Lake & Panther Lake CPUs for desktop and laptops have been revealed by Jaykihn.
Intel Postpones Innovation 2024 Event to 2025, No Word on Arrow Lake Launch
Intel announced that it has postponed the 2024 edition of its Innovation event to 2025. Among other things, the first-party event showcases innovations from the company's various business units made in the preceding year, includes a few key product launches, and teasers for what's next. The...www.techpowerup.com
Zen5X3D is likely to be far superior to Arrow Lake in terms of performance and efficiency, so this delay bothers me little!
Perhaps Intel are waiting for X3D launch before showing their cards.
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Arrow lake power limits revealed including cancelled models
One cancelled model has 40 cores, 8P and 32E, this CPU had a PL2 power limit of 352watts and PL4 power limit of 667watts
The highest core count for arrow lake will be 24 cores. The 32 and 40 core CPUs were cancelled due to the extreme power draw
One cancelled model has 40 cores, 8P and 32E, this CPU had a PL2 power limit of 352watts and PL4 power limit of 667watts
The highest core count for arrow lake will be 24 cores. The 32 and 40 core CPUs were cancelled due to the extreme power draw
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That's an insane power limit.
With a 4090 and the rest of the system you would not be far off 1500W PSUs
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And it's 'only' 40 cores as well. If your workloads would benefit from that much multithreading you might as well get a Threadripper 7980X with 64 full fat cores (plus SMT threads now not available on future Intel CPU's) where the whole system would draw less power then that would with a PL4 mode enabled.
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The heat sink doubles up as a potato oven