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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

KompuKare said:
@Robert896r1 is any of your tuning dependent of silicon quality and the silicon lottery?

I mean the silicon lottery on the Intel side, ignoring any well-binned memory chips. I guess without a wide sample it is a hard question to answer what role, if any, the CPU memory controller etc. play.
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They’ll all fall within close to each other on average.

Board will make more of a difference on the max memory capability than cpu
 
Robert896r1 said:
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功耗比锐龙7还低！Intel酷睿Ultra 9 285K首发评测：游戏性能一言难尽

一、前言：Intel首款采用Chiplets设计的桌面处理器或许是酷睿第14代i9-14900KS处理器的设计失误让Intel的攻城狮至今心有余悸，代号为Arrow Lake的下一代桌面处理器酷睿Ultra 200S将稳定与能
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First review where I’d trust the numbers.
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Good on productivity, hit and miss in gaming. Not bad, but they need to try to improve those gaming numbers.
 
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Since some of you are obsessed with gaming power draw.
 
malachi said:
Jeez.....even reviews are getting tight these days.
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Just waiting on a cpu or gpu to launch with early access prices.

Nvidia are just about scummy enough to do it.

Robert896r1 said:
Since some of you are obsessed with gaming power draw
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whats the FPS per watt? what even is that chart telling me in chinese
 
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KompuKare said:
If best performance requires the latest Windows build and turning off VBS, then reviews will be all over the place IMO.

Is that build, 2153, on general release or something a reviewers has to go out of their way to find?

Windows build, correct Windows settings, most recent BIOS, this ain't be an easy CPU to review.

Do we know what Intel's reviewers guide says?
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This **** is really annoying, makes reading CPU reviews almost pointless because put together with all the power limits / VRM throttling and what not, the numbers are so unreliable that you might as well just throw a dart at a dartboard and hope the CPU you picked is fastest in 2 months time after Windows build 219582150 and BIOS update 50095.
 
JediFragger said:
TRUSTMEBRO!!!!!!!!!!!
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To be fair Intel's roadmaps seem to confirm LGA1851 is going to be relatively short lived with anything other than maybe a refresh cancelled as things stand. But a lot of stuff is still up in the air really as per what happened with Meteor Lake and still some rumours around "Bartlett" CPUs with possibility they might be coming to both 1700 and 1851 even or not at all :s
 
Rroff said:
That only makes sense if you selectively set things like crowd density to ultra, a lot of visual settings on ultra even at lower resolution will massively shift load to the GPU.

EDIT: Though I agree with the overall point - personally I only bother with the results for the settings I'm going to play at and lower resolution with those settings can give an indication of future GPU performance but ultimately that is why you need tests at more than just one resolution/settings profile.
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Ideally you'd test settings for each game and isolate them (certainly things like SSR are obvious only-GPU_taxing) but... let's be serious, people can't even bother not testing with GPU-limited benchmarks for their CPU tests, or lower the resolution, let alone something more complicated. That's why it will be simpler & more accurate to just push the settings up (ultra/max preset instead of low).
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Interesting results from the early CN reviews. The efficiency seems good (even if the performance is weak, as expected, in gaming) until you run into a properly multi-threaded title, then you can see it's still far from the truly great (7800X3D); power consumption:

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Rroff said:
To be fair Intel's roadmaps seem to confirm LGA1851 is going to be relatively short lived with anything other than maybe a refresh cancelled as things stand. But a lot of stuff is still up in the air really as per what happened with Meteor Lake and still some rumours around "Bartlett" CPUs with possibility they might be coming to both 1700 and 1851 even or not at all :s
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all the real ballers are waiting for 18a anyway? jus the people with FOMO can't hold out.

Nova Lake seems to be scheduled launch around the same time as GT6 will probably hit PC
 
Poneros said:
Interesting results from the early CN reviews. The efficiency seems good (even if the performance is weak, as expected, in gaming) until you run into a properly multi-threaded title, then you can see it's still far from the truly great (7800X3D); power consumption:

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IIRC assuming that is a loop of the CP2077 built in benchmark at 1080p my 14700K averaged about 130 watt. I can't say in that context power consumption really bothers me much as at the wall the difference is generally much less stark than the CPU power draw difference itself.
 
Rroff said:
IIRC assuming that is a loop of the CP2077 built in benchmark at 1080p my 14700K averaged about 130 watt. I can't say in that context power consumption really bothers me much as at the wall the difference is generally much less stark than the CPU power draw difference itself.
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considering it also loses badly in cp2077, power efficiency in games might turn out worse than last gen
 
arknor said:
all the real ballers are waiting for 18a anyway? jus the people with FOMO can't hold out.

Nova Lake seems to be scheduled launch around the same time as GT6 will probably hit PC
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i told a friend of mine i'd probably buy the cpu to sit on my desk 'until i need it'
just donating to the cause at this point.

so much #winning.

one might hope that new fabs get completed and they bring out some intel fabby goodness in the not too distant future...
aren't they still flogging raptor stock ?
 
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