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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

I think it looks like an ok step in the wright direction. The low to mid range will probably be better options as they will have more cores than AMD and much better iGPU's. The price of the board's and socket life is the biggest problem for me.
 
From the initial reviews I really wonder who this chip is aimed at, or what the point in releasing it at all was

I guess people would feel safer than owning a 13th/14th gen chip but your still a beta tester.

NO games are planning on using the new AI features I take it?

I doubt the socket ever gets more CPUs tbh
 
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Sadly I expect we'll see the prices of other CPUs rise, rather than the price of these CPUs get slashed down to where they should be :(
 
The 285K would be interesting at about $400, at launch. Months/year from now... meh. I just can't believe that with each new release Intel stumbles even harder. I really wouldn't have believed it years ago, even tho I was quite critical of them even then (particularly when Krzanich got booted and mgmt went full tomato mode).
 
Now that NDA is up, I'd strongly advise against getting ARL *UNLESS* you really want to tweak and tinker with a new platform that has a ton of cool stuff.

Even then, Intel has a lot of FW updates to do and work with Intel needs to work with MS to sort out the OS related issue. It's a long bump road ahead.

Get a 9800x3d if you want max performance or 7800x3d if you can find one on offer. If you have ADL/RPL/RPL-S, then stay on it.
 
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Subtimings too? Are you seeing gains in gaming?
 
You'd have to say it seems like there are a lot of compatibility issues at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if performance does improve (although not expecting it to be world beating still).
 
Robert896r1 said:
Now that NDA is up, I'd strongly advise against getting ARL *UNLESS* you really want to tweak and tinker with a new platform that has a ton of cool stuff.

Even then, Intel has a lot of FW updates to do and work with Intel needs to work with MS to sort out the OS related issue. It's a long bump road ahead.

Get a 9800x3d if you want max performance or 7800x3d if you can find one on offer. If you have ADL/RPL/RPL-S, then stay on it.
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14700K - £100 cheaper than the 7800X3D right now - within margin of error of the 7800X3D for high resolution/settings gaming (at least until like a 5090 comes along) and crushes it for anything outside of gaming. Often within a hair of the much more expensive CPUs. As long as you don't mind the power consumption which at the wall generally isn't as scarily different as the reviews might suggest.

EDIT: Even the older 12th and 13th gen still hold up pretty well and are currently massively discounted.
 
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what sort of poo did Intel put in their memory controller?
from TPU, same ddr5-6000 cl36 memory
9950X 67.9ns
285K 88.4ns
what is it doing?
this alone would account for most of poor game performance
 
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this alone would account for most of poor game performance
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Even if you stick 8600+ low latency stuff in there and tune the nuts off it to bring latency down nearer to the other platforms it doesn't massively change gaming performance - in some cases it is like 7-9% but the average is less.

EDIT: Ironically I think the higher P core single thread performance and E cores can't make up for the lack of HT units in game which benefitted from the extra threads with HT enabled as well.
 
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