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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

Oh good gravy, the 9800X3D is going to dominate when it launches.

The reviews of Arrow-Lake are damning


24H2 really made things difficult for Intel, 9000 series non 3D is basically at parity with 14th gen in gaming (and thus Arrow Lake assuming best case scenario, when taking into account Intels own cherrypicked slides)

7800X3D has pulled even further ahead, and then 9800X3D is gonna add another ~10% or so on top of that.
 
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are they all old and white? gotta make way for the DEI hires



For that to happen a lot of talented people have to be pushed out of their roles, to make way for people with less/0 experience.

this is why ubisoft allegedly, according to a former employee had a dev manually renaming 20,000 files, instead of writing a batch script

This is the thing about equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome, with the former you hire on merit, who or what you are is irrelevant, if you're the best fit for the job you get the job, with equality of outcome your hiring practices are based on who you are, what you look like first, less on what you can do, are you good at your job.

It doesn't take much intelligence to realise all that is wrong with equality of outcome, and its a lot.... but its where we are at now because in politics logic, a male trait has been replaced by emotion, a female trait, it will be the end of us, China and its proxies are logical, not emotional about making the world theirs.
 
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This is the thing about equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome, with the former you hire on merit, who or what you are is irrelevant, if you're the best fit for the job you get the job, with equality of outcome your hiring practices are based on who you are, what you look like first, less on what you can do, are you good at your job.

It doesn't take much intelligence to realise all that is wrong with equality of outcome, and its a lot.... but its where we are at now because in politics logic, a male trait has been replaced by emotion, a female trait, it will be the end of us, China and its proxies are logical, not emotional about making the world theirs.
well Lisa does ok ;)
 
It's not really a good look for Intel though - they have more effective packaging techniques over AMD and are using more advanced nodes too and a better memory controller.
Although that be "better" memory controller is slower than RPL...

I was looking forward to what the advanced packaging could do, but so far it mainly seems to be more expensive. Still, at least it doesn't take capacity away from anyone else.

No
Removing HT looks like a mistake so far lol
Especially if there is anything to the rumours that they took it out to save on validation time. The three "types" of cores make the schedulers too complex is somewhat credible but Intel marketing going overboard on how SMT was holding back ST - well, certainly no credibility this generation!
 
are they all old and white? gotta make way for the DEI hires



For that to happen a lot of talented people have to be pushed out of their roles, to make way for people with less/0 experience.

this is why ubisoft allegedly, according to a former employee had a dev manually renaming 20,000 files, instead of writing a batch script
Only on OcUK can a intel CPU thread turn to a wokeness rant :confused:
 
Is it just me or is it rather ridiculous that we now have Apple, NVidia, AMD and Intel all competing for TSMC's capacity?
Worse when you consider China wants Taiwan back and could invade at any moment. It'd throw the U.S if not the global economy into a recession most likely. Likely why, despite what Trump says, the U.S will need to protect Taiwan, or try to, if it comes to that.
 
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Worse when you consider China wants Taiwan back and could invade at any moment. It'd throw the global economy into a recession most likely. Likely why, despite what Trump says, the U.S will need to protect Taiwan, or try to.
people need to realise the reality of Taiwans independence.
In keeping with its China policy, the U.S. does not support de jure Taiwan independence

In the Joint Communiqué, the United States recognized the Government of the People's Republic of China as the sole legal government of China, acknowledging the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China.

The UK does not recognise Taiwan as a state and has no diplomatic relations with Taiwan, so limited consular services are available to British nationals

11 countries recognise Taiwan and 0 of them are relevant on the world stage, It's pretty much accepted and inevitable that it becomes part of China again.
 
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