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***Intel i7 4790K Owners thread***

guys.
Im having a problem with ocing my memory.
Gskill tridentx 2800mhz cl12, 2x4GB.
Im trying to get it to 3ghz, but the 3000mhz ratio in the bios is not working for me. It just doesnt boot.
So i tried the trick with 2933mhz + 102.3mhz but the system couldnt boot, it said overclock failed or something like that.
If i downclock everything and try 102.3mhz bclk it works.
2933 mhz divider works too.

Is there any other way how to get 3ghz on memory ? using strap or something ? How does it influence it all ?
Or any other settings? Or which slots is the best to use ? asus VII hero..
 
Does the Cache/Uncore actually ever hit x44 (4.4GHz) when running the 4790k stock with everything set to default/auto in the BIOS? My CPU will reach 4.4GHz under load (turbo), but the Cache/Uncore only reaches 4.0GHz despite various utils showing the max cache/uncore ratio as x44.... It always seems to stop at x40!

Anyone else have this issue?
 
Does the Cache/Uncore actually ever hit x44 (4.4GHz) when running the 4790k stock with everything set to default/auto in the BIOS? My CPU will reach 4.4GHz under load (turbo), but the Cache/Uncore only reaches 4.0GHz despite various utils showing the max cache/uncore ratio as x44.... It always seems to stop at x40!

Anyone else have this issue?
i believe its supposed to be like that.
4000mhz on cache is technically an overclock. ;) and going above it doenst rly bring any noticable performance.
I keep my cache at 4500MHz with 1.22v(real). If i wanted to go for 4600MHz stable i would have to put 1.31v(real) which is rly not worth it.
 
i believe its supposed to be like that.
4000mhz on cache is technically an overclock. ;) and going above it doenst rly bring any noticable performance.
I keep my cache at 4500MHz with 1.22v(real). If i wanted to go for 4600MHz stable i would have to put 1.31v(real) which is rly not worth it.

I don't really understand how 4000MHz on cache is an overclock when it's also the CPUs base frequency? Everything shows my CPU cache ratio set to x44 to match the highest core ratio of x44 under load (4.4GHz turbo mode)... But the cache never reaches that (seems to max out at 4.0GHz).

Asrock have even sent me a new BIOS chip flashed with an updated version of the Intel Management Engine firmware. They also seem to think the cache/uncore should be matching the highest CPU core speed when it's running stock. I've not tried the new chip yet as I can't find my small IC extractor tool :rolleyes:.
 
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I don't really understand how 4000MHz on cache is an overclock when it's also the CPUs base frequency? Everything shows my CPU cache ratio set to x44 to match the highest core ratio of x44 under load (4.4GHz turbo mode)... But the cache never reaches that (seems to max out at 4.0GHz).

Asrock have even sent me a new BIOS chip flashed with an updated version of the Intel Management Engine firmware. They also seem to think the cache/uncore should be matching the highest CPU core speed when it's running stock. I've not tried the new chip yet as I can't find my small IC extractor tool :rolleyes:.
its a overclock vs 4770k which uses the same design....

In my bios, theres min cache ratio and max cache ratio. Check if u have both set to 44. also u can check it in cpu-z, in memory tab. Mine is permament 4500mhz
 
its a overclock vs 4770k which uses the same design....

In my bios, theres min cache ratio and max cache ratio. Check if u have both set to 44. also u can check it in cpu-z, in memory tab. Mine is permament 4500mhz

I didn't think the 4790k was exactly the same as a 4770k (looks a bit different underneath). The CPU and cache ratios are both set to x44 by default (auto mode in the BIOS), but the cache will only reach x40 under load. What happens when you run your 4790k with stock settings in the bios? Does the cache reach 4.4GHz (x44) when the CPU runs at it's 4.4GHz turbo state?

CPU-Z doesn't show anything about my cache/uncore ratio.

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I didn't think the 4790k was exactly the same as a 4770k (looks a bit different underneath). The CPU and cache ratios are both set to x44 by default (auto mode in the BIOS), but the cache will only reach x40 under load. What happens when you run your 4790k with stock settings in the bios? Does the cache reach 4.4GHz (x44) when the CPU runs at it's 4.4GHz turbo state?

CPU-Z doesn't show anything about my cache/uncore ratio.

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yeah. they added some resistors and some other components at the bottom of the cpu but the actual chip is (i believe) the same. They also changed the thermal paste inside thus better temps with 4790k. They also overclocked it more.....

CPU-z shows ur chache under "memory" tab. look:
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In bios i have:
1. core ratio: 48x (4600mhz)
2. cache MIN ratio: 45x (4500mhz)
3. cache MAX ratio: 45x (4500mhz)

Cache is always at 4500(cuz of MIN value) and never goes less.

Default setting is AUTO, which is x40 for Max value, not sure about min tho.
 
yeah. they added some resistors and some other components at the bottom of the cpu but the actual chip is (i believe) the same. They also changed the thermal paste inside thus better temps with 4790k. They also overclocked it more.....

CPU-z shows ur chache under "memory" tab. look:
zfatxrgwfys7zdd6fkwpxh4wpb2x2r43.jpg


In bios i have:
1. core ratio: 48x (4600mhz)
2. cache MIN ratio: 45x (4500mhz)
3. cache MAX ratio: 45x (4500mhz)

Cache is always at 4500(cuz of MIN value) and never goes less..


Thanks for the info! A few parts of CPU-Z were greyed out so I've now downloaded the latest version and can see it now :cool:.

Default setting is AUTO, which is x40 for Max value, not sure about min tho.

So basically a stock 4790K will boost to 4.4GHz, but the cache will never go above 4GHz. I wonder if anyone else can confirm this with their boards too? So far i've only seen this happen with Asrock Z97 and Gigabyte Z97 boards with the CPU running stock (everything set to default/auto in the BIOS). What board are you using?

It's strange as HWinfo, IXTU and even Asrocks own A-Tuning utility will show my cache ratio as 44x (auto setting) but still the cache will only reach 4GHz under load.
 
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Thanks for the info! A few parts of CPU-Z were greyed out so I've now downloaded the latest version and can see it now :cool:.



So basically a stock 4790K will boost to 4.4GHz, but the cache will never go above 4GHz. I wonder if anyone else can confirm this with their boards too? So far i've only seen this happen with Asrock Z97 and Gigabyte Z97 boards with the CPU running stock (everything set to default/auto in the BIOS). What board are you using?

It's strange as HWinfo, IXTU and even Asrocks own A-Tuning utility will show my cache ratio as 44x (auto setting) but still the cache will only reach 4GHz under load.

try to check aida64/Computer/overclock. There u can see CPU Speed, CPU multiplier etc. Also theres North Bridge Clock below it in the CPU speed section. For me it shows correctly(45x = 4500mhz cache).

I use Asus Maxinum VII hero - ROG poWa :cool:.
 
Would i be right in saying going from a 4.6 2600k to one of these would be a sidegrade at most? Gaming performance seems literally insignificantly faster at best. Expected more than that 3 years after the 2600k. =/
 
Would i be right in saying going from a 4.6 2600k to one of these would be a sidegrade at most? Gaming performance seems literally insignificantly faster at best. Expected more than that 3 years after the 2600k. =/

Well.
From what ive seen, cpu power related programs can gain up to 30% boost from going 2600k stock to 4790k stock.
Gamewise it can be 1-5%... Some games maybe more.
:)

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/287?vs=1199
 
Would i be right in saying going from a 4.6 2600k to one of these would be a sidegrade at most? Gaming performance seems literally insignificantly faster at best. Expected more than that 3 years after the 2600k. =/

This is the thing what's bugging me, my heart would love a 5820K but my brain is saying that it's not worth it.
I looked at some performance figures...

2600k 3.40ghz = 8,585
4790k 4.00ghz = 11,301
5820k 3.30ghz = 12,988

if we standardise these figures to 4.00ghz, we get...

2600k = 10,100
4790k = 11,301
5820k = 15,743

...and divide that by cores...

2600k = 2525
4790k = 2825 + 11.9% over 2600k
5820k = 2624 + 3.9% over 2600k

...there's virtually nothing in it, my upgrade itch is going to have to stay for a while. :(
 
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hello everyone, i need some advice:
right now im using Noctua C12P SE14 as my CPU Cooler.
i also have a brand new NH-D14 that i got 4 months ago, i havent installed it yet cause i dont know if its worth the trouble.

please tell me what you think, should i install the D14 or just sell it?

we just entered Autumn and under load my CPU gets to 78c-82c

here are the two heatsinks:

NH C12P SE14:

noctua_nh_c12p_se14.jpg



NH-D14

noctua_nh_d14_2.jpg
 
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