The older ones definitely won't work out of the box. You can, however, send them off to the manufacturer to update the bios or if you have a Skylake cpu, do it yourself.
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** Intel Pentium G4560: Bang For Buck Gaming **
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The older ones definitely won't work out of the box. You can, however, send them off to the manufacturer to update the bios or if you have a Skylake cpu, do it yourself.
In the majority of real life gaming situations it is an incredibly good chip pound for pound. That's basically objective fact at this point. Yet for some reason you've cherry picked a cpu heavy scenario to try and **** on the bonfire in here. Probably to try and justify your own spending, I can't think why else you'd both. Go do something useful.
Aye but you know, lazy. I'm considering actually getting a decent z270 Incase I feel the need to upgrade at some point. So at least will only be a CPU change at that point
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It pretty much happens at a given point in all the tests used in the article, but sure. Don't let me ruin your Christmas...Like I said, pound for pound it has serious merit, but let's not pretend it's something it's not...
Or lets?...
I'll tell you what is useful, trying things for yourself. That includes higher end SKU also. Cherry picking, from the video that was actually posted. Ridiculous nonsense!
I think you might be missing the point, this is a budget CPU. The comparison you had in the screenshot pits the 4560 against the i3 7350K, which is £169.99 vs. the £59 of the 4560, that's nearly three times cheaper.
For that extra £110 you can buy 16GB of RAM, or a cheap ITX motherboard and an SSD!
Although you won't compare this with how special something like the Celeron 300A was, it proves that for the majority of people splurging huge amounts of cash extra for a better CPU is simply not necessary for budget gaming, and you know the best part? If you decide you want more power when you have more money, you can simply pick up another faster CPU, be it new or second hand.
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It's still a fair amount slower than the i3, though. That's the point here. Yes it's cheap, but if I was building HTPC for someone for instance, I'd have a hard time convincing them that this CPU would be adequate for gaming. Even in the video I'm referencing, they as much agree if one is looking for 60fps. If not, then that again depends on the user.
Depends on the budget and this is clearly only a consideration for low-end gaming. I doubt it's worth anyone with such a low budget paying three times as much for the Core i3 when that money can go towards a better GPU. For example, Pentium + RX 480 is gonna be better (and cheaper) than Core i3 + RX 460 in most cases. It also offers a great upgrade path in the future.
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It's is a fair amount slower, when paired with a top of the line Titan XP with everything set on Ultra at 1440P etc. Compare that to other reviews where they are using real world comparisons for a budget build 1050/1060/RX470/RX480, and the actual difference is a couple of percent.
At the end of the day, this SKU is a definite bargain compared to Intel's offering of the last few years, and brings the cost of building a gaming PC in at a reasonable budget, and by that I mean the same cost as some who spends the same amount on a GTX1080, or gets the whole rig for the same price.
will that work out the box, no need to flash bios or anything?
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The video shows it paired with a 1060. Again, all depends on what one wants from a system. I'm not disagreeing it's a niche we've not seen for a short while, but it's by no means a wonder chip. If I was recommending something that would do minimal numbers across a whole range of software, I'd still have a hard time recommending it. CPU constrained titles are not exactly limited in numbers.
You need to make people aware of these things if looking to build a low end system, like you would any other. If looking to target 30fps, then you're for the most part set.
The article which joins the video states the following.
As I said, go and look at some actual reviews using the cards people would be pairing with this CPU.
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You mean the cards where targeting 30fps is the most pragmatic? That would only cement what I'm saying.
What? You are distracting from the fact that what you said was incorrect, the CPU in the screen shot you selected showing the biggest difference was running a £1200 graphics card.
Again look at the reviews paired with cards at £150 to £230, you'll see that 1080p high/ultra settings are achievable with high average frame rates, and that this CPU is not holding them back and in fact in most cases matches CPU's at 5x the price.
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Care to show me some examples? Lower SKU GPU makes any difference how?
Other than the pain painstakingly obvious fact that the difference between your minimums and average frame rate are reduced. You're not consistently targeting 60 frames per second with for instance a 1050Ti. That's the issue here.
You're saying something is achievable when it's not. Much like EuroGamer eluded to, with the Pentium 30fps is more apt.
Yes, comparatively it makes the i3 look expensive. That's a far cry from saying this is a miracle CPU for the budget gamer who wants consistent frame rates on a very tight budget.
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No, mobo will need updated bios.
So let me get this straight, you think that if someone buys an RX470 or equivalent, then spending an extra £110 for about 2-5% difference in a few games, and no difference in others presents this as bad value?
We all know that there is no such thing as gaming on a very tight budget with constant frame rates, since new games coming out will always put a strain on your current hardware, be it CPU or GPU.
There is no argument here, this CPU offers significant price to performance compared with the higher end chips, and since this whole forum was dedicated to that, and as we can no longer enjoy the benefits of OC'ing like in the past, now we must seek out FPS/£
How exactly does one update the bios on a motherboard to accept a new CPU, if you only have that CPU to use in it?
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Resorting to putting words in mouth, always a sign things are about to go down hill, eh
.1) I've said 30fps is very much a valid target for the Pentium
2)I've said the CPU offers good value, that isn't the question here.
3)The argument was that it was a consistent performer when targeting higher frames, which is not the case. You then resorted to telling me to look at other reviews paired with lower SKU GPU. The latter doesn't change the fact.
As I've been saying, if building a system, you need to keep in mind that you are still somewhat strangling performance in a number of titles. Therefore you enter a niche as soon as those titles are part of the users workload. Ergo does the user consider reducing that bottleneck worth the premium. That is subjective, as we've established already...
If you would prefer to think everything is sunshine and roses, by all means that's your god given right. The Pentium offers great value over the i3, that is about as far as you can push the merit of this CPU.