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[Ayahuasca]

People usually get the K if they don't have a spare GPU to troubleshoot with. Even if I did, for the difference in cost I'd rather just have the iGPU so I can check almost instantly.

 

[Toasty]

onboard is useful for trouble shooting and quicksync for content creation. The price difference is usually so little its worth just getting the K

 

[MrRockliffe]

I see most people going for the K variant rather than the KF. Any reason why? Ive already a decent graphics card so wouldnt need the onboard gfx with the K version. So Im thinking of grabbing an i713700KF but no idea about motherboards, id probably be looking to re use my DDR4 3600mhz rather than go the DDR5 route just yet.

Onboard graphics is one of those things where you don't care about it until you need it, and then it's super useful to have.

Just gives redundancy in case your GPU dies - otherwise you wouldn't be able to use the PC.

 

[Glanza]

As above it's nice to have for troubleshooting when GFX issues come across.

 

[Darujhistan]

Out of intrest what's the rough equivalent to Ryzen's 7700X? (8 core SKU).

 

[Vidar]

Having the the integrated graphics can really help with trouble shooting etc

 

[Deleted User 456458]

Out of intrest what's the rough equivalent to Ryzen's 7700X? (8 core SKU).

13700k

 

[Darujhistan]

13700k

Thanks.

 

[IT Troll]

Whilst that's true for the performance cores, the 13700K also gets 8 efficiency cores. This should mean in performance terms it is trading blows with the 7900X.

 

[House]

Onboard graphics is one of those things where you don't care about it until you need it, and then it's super useful to have.

Just gives redundancy in case your GPU dies - otherwise you wouldn't be able to use the PC.

Agreed, for not much extra cost it's just a nice to have safety net.
Whats an extra £30 when your building a rig?

 

[Darujhistan]

Whilst that's true for the performance cores, the 13700K also gets 8 efficiency cores. This should mean in performance terms it is trading blows with the 7900X.

Do you know what the relative power usage is with these two chips - 13700K and 7700X?

 

[IT Troll]

Do you know what the relative power usage is with these two chips - 13700K and 7700X?

We won't know until the 13700K has been reviewed. I imagine it will be close to the 12900K though.

 

[nalla]

when will bundle deals appear for 13700 or 13900's

 

[Prozn]

@Gibbo What is the pre-order status looking like for the 13 series? Do you expect people pre-ordering now will get a chip on launch day? And similar for Z790 mobos? Thanks.

 

[sparkymark75]

@Gibbo What is the pre-order status looking like for the 13 series? Do you expect people pre-ordering now will get a chip on launch day? And similar for Z790 mobos? Thanks.

Be good if you could provide an update on this. I’m ready to pre-order a 13700K but don’t want to put in a pre-order if you’ve sold out of the first batch.

 

[mercyless]

Curious to know if ordering the 13 series, are you guys keeping it on z690 or going for the z790 as well?

 

[Pixsik]

Curious to know if ordering the 13 series, are you guys keeping it on z690 or going for the z790 as well?

Keeping Z690 as there is zero point to get near identical and more expensive Z790.
Intel want to milk people by releasing Z790, the performance will be indentical on Z690 unless you care about extreme memory OC which "might" be a bit better.

 

[aoaaron]

Well if you are planning on keeping the system the same length of time (4 full years) with no intermediate upgrades, then either LGA1700/AM5 is going to serve you well. However as always it depends on what your system is used for, and if that usage will stay the same or change in the near future.

I guess you also need to look at upfront costs, and if there is a limit to your budget. I certainly wouldn't want to be on a DDR4 system in 4 years time, but that again depends on your use case. A good B660 board with a 13700F (not KF) and some ~£165 DDR5-6000 would be a good choice for optimal price and performance, across gaming and productivity, but you might want a Z690 if you connect lots of peripherals to your system. AM5 is also an option but the CPU prices and board prices will push up the barrier to entry for arguably less performance in certain tasks, but have the benefit of long term sock support, with a potential significant CPU upgrade in a few years, much like people moving from a R5 1600 to a 5xxx part or even an 5800 X3D have had recently, extending the life of the system several more years.

It's a really tough decision.

I've had an 8086k and its been rock solid, absolutely perfect.

Before I had an AMD and ran into the odd 'AMD related issue' which was always painful to troubleshoot.

Was on reddit and saw people having AMD + Hp Reverb G2 issues.

Upgradability is sweet though but I do wonder when/ever a 13900k will become outdated. Surely by the time it needs updating, we'll probably just be looking at buying an entire new rig given its fairly future proofed for gaming (aka its not going to bottleneck for at least 5 years especially at higher resolutions?).

 

[IT Troll]

Upgradability is sweet though but I do wonder when/ever a 13900k will become outdated. Surely by the time it needs updating, we'll probably just be looking at buying an entire new rig given its fairly future proofed for gaming (aka its not going to bottleneck for at least 5 years especially at higher resolutions?).

If you buy a top tier CPU, I find it is often other platform improvements which prompt an upgrade before the CPU performance is becoming an issue. This time, PCIE4/5 and DDR5 are as much part of the upgrade as the CPU for me.

 

[malachi]

What the difference between K and KF models?