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While LN2 means little for daily, you do start to get an idea of how much frequency headroom there is on average to the previous gen.
 

While LN2 means little for daily, you do start to get an idea of how much frequency headroom there is on average to the previous gen.

Seems minor given 8ghz was reached on 12900k already
 
Peeps is there any TANGIBLE reason not to pick up a Z690 vs z790?

It seems they both support PCI4 for storage and PCI5 for GPU Slot.

It seems, except minor stuff, the only real difference is memory support, correct? Browsing the ASUS website it seems their ROG have a bios already out for a few days to support 13th gen and with bios flashback one does not need a CPU either, so I was really thinking to get one of those, these Z790 are overpriced, I cannot see the value costing as much as the CPU although money isn't an issue :)
 
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Peeps is there any TANGIBLE reason not to pick up a Z690 vs z790?

It seems they both support PCI4 for storage and PCI5 for GPU Slot.

It seems, except minor stuff, the only real difference is memory support, correct? Browsing the ASUS website it seems their ROG have a bios already out for a few days to support 13th gen and with bios flashback one does not need a CPU either, so I was really thinking to get one of those, these Z790 are overpriced, I cannot see the value costing as much as the CPU although money isn't an issue :)
More Pcie 4.0 lanes on the chipset and one additional USB 20 Gbps port except that official specs are identical.
Some high end Z790 motherboards might have a slightly better memory OC but probably most Z690 motherboards will allow for higher OC as well when paired with 13700K/13900K due to better memory controller.

Save money and get Z690 unless you care about memory OC.

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I wonder in the current environment how much of an issue power is going to be between AMD and Intel with the Intel chips reported as using quite a bit less power consumption.
 
I wonder in the current environment how much of an issue power is going to be between AMD and Intel with the Intel chips reported as using quite a bit less power consumption.

That's another reason why I personally get one, not the only one but definitely one. Even underclocking it seems you get same performance at better power consumption.

Just because I was not upgrading in 4 years from my 8700k, not that I really have to, however I appreciate why CPUs aren't selling as much, the fact that they try to pass some chips for gaming (that GPU too) as "status symbol" items like an iPhone is frankly a joke :) they need to go back and learn a bit of anthropology, this isn't "Ready Player One" reality :D yet...


Thank you @Pixsik - I cannot see the value if I am going with (paired with a 3090 which I got very "cheap" already):
  • 2 x 1tb M2 Drive PCI4
  • 1 x 4tb SATA HDD
  • 1 x 512gb SATA SSD for the OS
 
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I'm finally looking to upgrade in the new year from my 9900k, which will be donated to the child.

Just not sure what platform I'm going for.

Well if you are planning on keeping the system the same length of time (4 full years) with no intermediate upgrades, then either LGA1700/AM5 is going to serve you well. However as always it depends on what your system is used for, and if that usage will stay the same or change in the near future.

I guess you also need to look at upfront costs, and if there is a limit to your budget. I certainly wouldn't want to be on a DDR4 system in 4 years time, but that again depends on your use case. A good B660 board with a 13700F (not KF) and some ~£165 DDR5-6000 would be a good choice for optimal price and performance, across gaming and productivity, but you might want a Z690 if you connect lots of peripherals to your system. AM5 is also an option but the CPU prices and board prices will push up the barrier to entry for arguably less performance in certain tasks, but have the benefit of long term sock support, with a potential significant CPU upgrade in a few years, much like people moving from a R5 1600 to a 5xxx part or even an 5800 X3D have had recently, extending the life of the system several more years.
 
I see most people going for the K variant rather than the KF. Any reason why? Ive already a decent graphics card so wouldnt need the onboard gfx with the K version. So Im thinking of grabbing an i713700KF but no idea about motherboards, id probably be looking to re use my DDR4 3600mhz rather than go the DDR5 route just yet.
 
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