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INTEL RAPTOR LAKE NOW AVAILABLE TO PRE-ORDER !


They seem quite the kit, I need to check how tall these are.


£484.99 for a motherboard HA HA HA HA HA more than the CPU, ASUS must be dreaming! I mean, I have been into aviation for a decade so my concept of spending money for my hobby isn't exactly on the cheap side, however there, there is value and there is no much alternative that "flies" really, to game a PC isn't the only platform and honestly £500 motherboard £500 processor and £300 ram.... what used to be up until covid a midlevel build, and covid along with shortage is long far gone along with the array of excuses. @ASUS UK guys come back to planet earth :D

All of this with, by looking at the Excitement at EGX a couple of weeks ago, most people are excited about indies with very subpar triple A.
 
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Not much in the way of value on the new stuff is there. Thankfully still 12600K and the MSI Z690 pro-A

Can see many people going to console for AAA and playing indie on PC they have already as they by and large play on potatoes
 
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Eesh, both companies have expensive products. I know there are various reasons why but it's a far cry from the days when excellent gaming chips like the i5's were under £200, and the 3600 non-x.

Still, unless low res high-fps is the name of the game there are plenty of capable options from the older product lines with cheap DDR4.
 
2 x 32. Will always be better than 4 x 16. Will be less strain on the IMC and you also have the ability to update to more ram if you need to with 2 spare slots, but you will end up running the ram slower with 4 sticks probably/depends on the IMC in the cpu.
DIMMs that are optimized for quad-channel configuration are typically sold in four-packs. Not all memory modules of the same model are “born” equal and those four-packs are actually cherry-picked modules with matching timing. So, going dual there is pro and cons

I read Intel 13th Raptor Lake processors are not improving on the maximum DDR 4 memory speed only DDR 5.

 
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DIMMs that are optimized for quad-channel configuration are typically sold in four-packs. Not all memory modules of the same model are “born” equal and those four-packs are actually cherry-picked modules with matching timing. So, going dual there is pro and cons

I read Intel 13th Raptor Lake processors are not improving on the maximum DDR 4 memory speed only DDR 5.


I’m not sure where you got this info but it’s just wrong. There no Special 4 pack optimised dimms. The same bin just happens to be sold in a 4 pack. 2 pack or 4 pack of the same bin, make and model are the same thing. I can buy two single dimms individually of the same bin, make and model and it‘d be no different than buying a 2 pack.

The board memory topology makes all the difference. We haven’t had T-top boards since z390 so populating 4 dimm slots will have a notably lower frequency ceiling than 2. Daisy chain signalling is optimised for 2 dimms. This is on top of having a lowered ceiling as you go up in overall memory capacity.
 
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I’m not sure where you got this info but it’s just wrong. There no Special 4 pack optimised dimms. The same bin just happens to be sold in a 4 pack. 2 pack or 4 pack of the same bin, make and model are the same thing. I can buy two single dimms individually of the same bin, make and model and it‘d be no different than buying a 2 pack.

The board memory topology makes all the difference. We haven’t had T-top boards since z390 so populating 4 dimm slots will have a notably lower frequency ceiling than 2. Daisy chain signalling is optimised for 2 dimms. This is on top of having a lowered ceiling as you go up in overall memory capacity.
I read it somewhere, anyway Four ranks of memory will give you up to 15% more performance than two it's always going a debate on 2 vs 4 dimm, it's just personal preference:)

I found this old thread.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/4-sticks-of-ram-perform-better-than-2.18863177/
 
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I read it somewhere, anyway Four ranks of memory will give you up to 15% more performance than two it's always going a debate on 2 vs 4 dimm, it's just personal preference:)

I found this old thread.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/4-sticks-of-ram-perform-better-than-2.18863177/

As the 2nd post states, the reason they're seeing better performance isn't due any reason except that they went from a single rank configuration to a dual rank configuration. This allows 'rank interleaving' to take place which is where the performance is coming from.

Rank Interleaving on DDR4 is quite strong. Eventually though, we started getting Dual Rank kits which made 2x16 much more attractive than 4x8 due to the Daisy Chain topology only boards starting with Z490.

FYI. Rank Interleaving on DDR5 isn't as noteworthy. There are technical reasons for that but in general, not anything to worry about
 
Intel could be onto a winner with the pricing of the 13900k compared to the 7950x

13900k should smash the 7950x in MT loads due to having 24 core vs 16 on the AMD chip. Plus the intel is cheaper too !
 
Retailers might order at a certain fixed exchange rate, so if the pound improves over the next weeks, it doesn't change the price of that order, even if the stock doesn't arrive for weeks.
Their purchase prices will only change on the next order.
With this being a pre-order scenario, I don't suppose that many orders have been placed.
 
Retailers might order at a certain fixed exchange rate, so if the pound improves over the next weeks, it doesn't change the price of that order, even if the stock doesn't arrive for weeks.
Their purchase prices will only change on the next order.
With this being a pre-order scenario, I don't suppose that many orders have been placed.
I'd be surprised if big retailers don't cover currency in advance. The only times you wouldn't is times like now if you were planning quite bit further forwards.
 
Retailers might order at a certain fixed exchange rate, so if the pound improves over the next weeks, it doesn't change the price of that order, even if the stock doesn't arrive for weeks.
any changes only ever work in the retailers favour for sure.

if the current inventory was bought at 1.20, future inventory is bought at 1.10 you think they don't just change the price straight away?
 
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