You knowIntel have a dual core X299 on the way. That chip should overclock really well and run 4600Mhz memory.
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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You knowIntel have a dual core X299 on the way. That chip should overclock really well and run 4600Mhz memory.
So buy a dual core and stop spouting complete nonsense.
Nah, ill get the 8700k and know that I don't have to pick and chose what games I play because of devs not liking AMD.
Which is you know, the whole reason I'm in this thread.
Remind me, why are you here?
Happy day's and I hope you enjoy it. Mean while an Amd cpu will still do the job very well.
Almost as if that dual core has significantly better at something that game needs. Can't put my finger on it, what could it be?
Yeah why buy a better chip on a better platform when you can spend more for less performance. Makes total sense Gavin.
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I won't disagree with that, but what's the point in that line of discussion in the Coffee Lake thread?
Almost as if that dual core has significantly better at something that game needs. Can't put my finger on it, what could it be?
Microsoft maybe. Just a hunch
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You forgot the topic again didn't you.
So, now the reason ryzen doesn't do well in some games is because of microsoft? GTFO this thread lol.
If that was the case it would be all games.
No, its down to the devs.
It was relevant in the whole back and forth we've been having.
Not down to the hardware then?. Ok good that's a start. So after a decade of a near Intel monopoly, we can begin to see both companies treated fairly with no bias to one or the other.
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No Gavin. Ryzen will do just fine regardless. Your confusing two lines of discussion. One is why can PC hardware used in a console make better use of lesser hardware than a game ported to a Windows PC fitted with hardware that's a magnitude better.
Errrm, devs? API's?
We know ryzen has haswell levels of performance so if its performing worse than that in games then the issue lies outside of the hardware.
It comes down to how the games are made, and upto now everything prefers intel. Even the forza 7 demo prefers intel released just a few days ago.
I'll stick to what I've said, ryzen is an i7 in some games and an i3 in others depending on what the game favours.
I'm not sure how that makes ryzen a " better chip on a better platform" but hey, whatever floats your boat.
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I've not seen you discussing this before, so sorry.
The last time I was linked a video showing that 3400C14 is needed for the fps Really?
Why do you keep posting that Ryzen has the same single core performance as Kaby. We know this already.
I never mentioned Ryzen I said why would pay more for a lesser system after arguing no-one needs the performance of Ryzen because no developer can harness it.
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I never said ryzen has the IPC of kaby lake. I think you are in this thread for the hell of it.
Ryzen, so powerful no developer can harness it lol.
It's also Microsofts fault.
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Techpowerup does not cherry pick game benchmarks. You can see their performance summary which is an average over many games.
If you have an 8-core CPU, then this would force you stop buying like 99% games now, since only like 1% games can get you a screenshot of 100% CPU utilisation.
Just like Intel's HEDT CPUs are not fit for gaming purposes, Ryzen is not either.
Yeah.
No but you might as well say that. The difference is tiny between between all the versions of the i7.
You're the one saying developers work with more than a few cores not me. Although you can't even seem to make up your mind about that. One minute cores count is important and the next it's not. But only when it suits what angle you was last arguing from. I'm trying to understand what makes you say things when they fly in the face of your previous arguments.
You are using a Windows PC arnt you?
No but you might as well say that. The difference is tiny between between all the versions of the i7.
You're the one saying developers work with more than a few cores not me. Although you can't even seem to make up your mind about that. One minute cores count is important and the next it's not. But only when it suits what angle you was last arguing from. I'm trying to understand what makes you say things when they fly in the face of your previous arguments.
You are using a Windows PC arnt you?
Well if the game is well written then you shouldn't see cores at 100% that would mean you have a bottleneck. Let's me guess when you look at Ryzen you think OMG look at how crap Ryzen is. The CPU load never goes over 25% but look at the i7 at 90% load all cores. Has it never occurred to you that Ryzen is a few slower than Kaby at a quarter of the load.
It interesting that we have no CPUs fit for gaming. I would argue we have boat loads of them just now. You three keep pointing out how many CPU's we have actually. But I see we are now on the new page sobyouve all probably forgot again.