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3400C14 must be faster than what's shown in the video for 3200C14. You haven't specified your CL for 2933 yet. You should make your own tests, especially regarding the 1% percentile framerates.
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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3400C14 must be faster than what's shown in the video for 3200C14. You haven't specified your CL for 2933 yet. You should make your own tests, especially regarding the 1% percentile framerates.
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This much more recent review gives a good overview and shows the improvement since launch.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_agesa_1006_performance_update_review,8.html
Maybe but I'd rather peel my own eyeballs TBH. Not to mention install Win 10 to do a full run down with DX12.
You can just install CPU-Z and provide us a valid link so we can see your RAM speed
You never knew Ryzen could run Hynix at 2933 did You? LOL
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I don't see the 1st percentile of framerates. That's supposed to be a measure of stuttering.
That's with a June BIOS. things could have changed again.
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You can just install CPU-Z and provide us a valid link so we can see your RAM speed
Actually CPU-Z may not be good enough
Passing a long series of stress tests to achieve stability (e.g. Realbench, LinX, memtest etc) and then validate it by using it for a month without any issue (such as no black screen, no cold-boot problem etc) can be challenging.Actually CPU-Z may not be good enough
Ah no, I think he doesn't even have a Ryzen system based on some of his replies and how he's been dodging the issue.
Though at this point I'm over it.
And yep, passing several loops/full coverage of memtest/HCI is the only way to validate memory on Ryzen. I use a mix of Realbench, Prime95 and memtest64 to validate, worked well so far since Prime95 caught some memory controller and cache issues that Realbench and memtest didn't catch.
Hopefully we get some more Coffee Lake news because all of this back and forward with the usual Knights of Ryzen is getting boring.
Well you seem to have your rebuff pre prepared. I go to the trouble to show you something and you dismiss it. Sounds about as much as I expected.
No memtest isn't the only way to test memory stability or proof of it.
Interesting to see this on the memory compatibility page:
Isn't that the board you're having your issues on, Gavin? Either way, Coffee Lake needs to hurry up so I can see the prices unfold on either side and make my decision.
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Still have to laugh about the Crosshair, aside from the fact it was vastly overpriced at launch for what it was, certain people were going around saying it was the only one to get, particularly for memory overclocking. From everything I've seen since launch, the Asus has had in general more trouble than every other board, despite all the claims of "you must pay a premium because no boards will get the same support or updates as an Asus Rog", which turns out to be utter bull. Everything from the Rog to the cheapest Zen board available is getting bios updates for better memory support and many other boards seem to be easier to overclock, more compatible with more memory and vastly cheaper for basically the same spec.
A lot of stores went hard in ripping off launch pricing with the "superior board" shtick but OCUK are one of the only ones to still be charging the same outrageous launch pricing. I mean 5% off in pricing is big enough that I would save the money and go elsewhere, over 20% is missing the mark by an embarrassingly large amount but I stand by what I said before launch, when 8pack and others were playing up the no boards will be updated as well or support as much memory..... all boards get updates, there is zero certainty that buying an expensive board gets you a trouble free board, Asus is as new to Ryzen as anyone else and just as liable to run into issues and regardless, it's ridiculously overpriced for how it's specced compared to the lower end x370 boards.
Personally I don't think most of the ROG features are very good, but closer to £200 it's expensive but not absurdly so, at £270 it's 30% above where the pricing should be.
A lot of stores went hard in ripping off launch pricing with the "superior board" shtick but OCUK are one of the only ones to still be charging the same outrageous launch pricing. I mean 5% off in pricing is big enough that I would save the money and go elsewhere, over 20% is missing the mark by an embarrassingly large amount but I stand by what I said before launch, when 8pack and others were playing up the no boards will be updated as well or support as much memory..... all boards get updates, there is zero certainty that buying an expensive board gets you a trouble free board, Asus is as new to Ryzen as anyone else and just as liable to run into issues and regardless, it's ridiculously overpriced for how it's specced compared to the lower end x370 boards.
Personally I don't think most of the ROG features are very good, but closer to £200 it's expensive but not absurdly so, at £270 it's 30% above where the pricing should be.
Interesting to see this on the memory compatibility page:
Isn't that the board you're having your issues on, Gavin? Either way, Coffee Lake needs to hurry up so I can see the prices unfold on either side and make my decision.
The issue on my board is also replicated on gigabyte and MSI. The IMC is at fault, not the board.
Very interesting responses regarding the gaming performance differences between Ryzen and these new Intel CPU.
The 8700k will likely retail for about £350 right?
Then a new Z370 motherboard should be had for about £120+?
16GB 2666Mhz memory for £140 - I think this is the memory for the 8700k?
So £600+ for a CPU/motherboard/Memory bundle. That ain't too bad really for the best gaming performance.
The 8700k will likely retail for about £350 right?
Then a new Z370 motherboard should be had for about £120+?
16GB 2666Mhz memory for £140 - I think this is the memory for the 8700k?
So £600+ for a CPU/motherboard/Memory bundle. That ain't too bad really for the best gaming performance.
Well £600 isn't great when you can just get a 4790K for £150 or less (even cheaper once sold your i5) which will perform mostly 5%-20% slower in gaming at 1080p (aka 110FPS vs 120FPS for instance). Would also be less noticeable at 1440p/4k.
£600 is not bad at all and the beauty is you don't just get the best gaming performance, you also get the multi core performance as well if you need it.
It's a good time to be upgrading with 6 cores now and 8 cores coming after. We just need developers to start making more of a use of the extra power we now have.
It's a good time to be upgrading with 6 cores now and 8 cores coming after. We just need developers to start making more of a use of the extra power we now have.
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Was looking at upgrading my 4770k to the 8700k, I'm gaming with my 4K monitor and 1080ti, also got a rift.
Am I going to see much of an uplift in performance from what I have now?
Am I going to see much of an uplift in performance from what I have now?
Depends. Mainly at 4K you are GPU limited not CPU, and depending what you run on the background.
I'd honestly wait for the 10nm Icelake CPU's, the 9700k.
It will be a new architecture - be aware that the 6700k, 7700k and 8700k are all the exact same CPU core architecture, Skylake. No IPC increase.
Icelake will have an IPC increase, and is rumoured to have 8 core mainstream parts. That's the one to wait for if you have Haswell or newer IMO
Plus PCI-E v4 will be here by then!