• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

Dave2150 said:
I'd honestly wait for the 10nm Icelake CPU's, the 9700k.

It will be a new architecture - be aware that the 6700k, 7700k and 8700k are all the exact same CPU core architecture, Skylake. No IPC increase.

Icelake will have an IPC increase, and is rumoured to have 8 core mainstream parts. That's the one to wait for if you have Haswell or newer IMO :) Plus PCI-E v4 will be here by then!
Click to expand...

This is questionable in two ways:

a) 1st generation of 10nm fab process may be immature, causing lower overclockability (just like 6700K did worse than 4790K);

b) 8-core may give up Ring architecture and opt for something like Mesh architecture, increasing inter-core communication latencies, resulting in worse gaming performance.
 
voidshatter said:
This is questionable in two ways:

a) 1st generation of 10nm fab process may be immature, causing lower overclockability (just like 6700K did worse than 4790K);

b) 8-core may give up Ring architecture and opt for something like Mesh architecture, increasing inter-core communication latencies, resulting in worse gaming performance.
Click to expand...
They may have to sacrifice some clock speed for architectural improvements, like ryzen has. We won't know until we see some leaks or benchmarks.

Again that depends how they design their architecture we don't know much about it at this point.
 
jrwagh333 said:
Is there any new features coming to Z370? Going from Z170 to Z270 had a few more PCIe lanes
Click to expand...

Maybe depending on the chipset and CPU. I think Intel will be very careful not to allow Z370 to thread on the toes of any other chipset. If you need PCIE lanes then X99 or Threadripper is probably a better platform.
 
jrwagh333 said:
Thought that too be true. I've got some DDR4 and even a CrossHair VI Hero waiting for a CPU to be bought - But CoffeeLake may fill my needs better.
Click to expand...

If you can I would wait for the reviews and benchmarks to see what fits your needs best. The choice often comes down to budget and the best value package for your needs. This is why I chose my ryzen 1700 over 7700k, the 7700k seemed like a four core dead end and the intel equivalents to the 1700 were far too expensive for what they offered me.
 
That's what I'm going to do

My PC is mainly used for CSGO and streaming. So need the high single thread for CSGO and then the multi-core for streaming so it really is looking like 8700K will be the way to go.
Although is rumours are to be true about price. An R7 1700 at £100 cheaper may be the way... we will see.
 
jrwagh333 said:
That's what I'm going to do

My PC is mainly used for CSGO and streaming. So need the high single thread for CSGO and then the multi-core for streaming so it really is looking like 8700K will be the way to go.
Although is rumours are to be true about price. An R7 1700 at £100 cheaper may be the way... we will see.
Click to expand...

Yeah thats the question really.

1700/1700X

Pros
Less money
More cores
Better platform

Cons
Less performance per core.

8700K

Pros
More single thread performance
Better than a quad core.

Cons

More money
Worse platform.

I think how well Coffee Lake overclock will be key. If the garden variety 8700K can crack 5Ghz then it might make more sense. I'd love to see coffee Lake bring back the headroom of Sandybridge.
 
jigger said:
Yeah thats the question really.

Cons

Worse platform.
Click to expand...

This is subjective, surely.
Is it a worse platform if you never upgrade a CPU in the same motherboard?
I'd think 2500k/2600k owners are happy with how long their investment has remained competitive.
 
gavinh87 said:
I never said ryzen has the IPC of kaby lake. I think you are in this thread for the hell of it.
Ryzen, so powerful no developer can harness it lol.
It's also Microsofts fault.
Click to expand...

Depend what part it is Microsoft's fault. Is it whole Microsoft's fault? No. Is it Microsoft's DirectX 12 fault? No. Is it Microsoft's Xbox division fault? Yes. The Xbox division designed and developed Xbox consoles.

Developers been explored everyday for the last 12 years since 2005 to find ways to fully harness PS3's 8 core Cell CPU, Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, PS4 and PS4 Pro's AMD Jaguar 8 core APU with no success, they never managed to maxed out 8 threads in games. The same thing happened to PC too with 6+ core CPUs since Bloomfield and Bulldozer.

Until now developers may finally got answer why they cant harness powerful CPUs like Threadripper with up to 32 threads.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-...phics-in-nano-technology-breakthrough/8724546
http://science.anu.edu.au/research/...-promises-ultra-fast-graphics-gaming-consoles

Copper wires on consoles, graphic cards and motherboards PCB are bottlenecked by GPU and CPU, copper wires need to be replace with nano optical wires so developers can finally harness CPU properly with lots of threads to push GPU frames higher to maximum.

Probably will be few years before we see next generation consoles, GPU cards and motherboards start to use nano optical wires.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom