*** iPhone 5 - Revealed! ***

£51 for unlimited data? Break out the Vaseline.

So, what's the deal with the nano sims. I assumed you got an option to choose your carrier as per the iPhone 4S, but it just went through checkout without a single mention.

And that's what you'd need if you're making use of 4G, and then the actual 4G 'bolt-on' will be £10-20 extra I imagine.

Shafted. :p

As for nano SIM's, contact your network and they'll send you one.
 
wow people are buying it. I'm surprised this time around as it's the first time their phone has been less powerful than the competition. Will be an interesting 6 months from an analysts point of view.

Firstly, it's pretty much always been less powerful than some of the competition, assuming you mean the internals (just the GPU is usually better).

Secondly, it's actually not less powerful than the competition, assuming the A6 uses two A15 cores, it's top of the range.

Thirdly, most people don't really care about 'power' too much, the iPhone has always operated very well.
 
Errr, even if it does use Cortex A15 it depends on the clockspeeds how it compares to the competition.

Try not to build it up too much because your could be setting yourself up for allot of disappointment.

If it is the A15 it will still be extremely quick (they will only downclock it to the point where it doesn't make a difference), and the architecture is apparently excellent for power consumption as well. We shall see.

I'm currently more interested in the overall battery life of the phone, I'm not worried about the speed, if it's even faster than the iPhone 4S then nobody will have an issue.
 
They are only claiming the CPU is 2x the performance, currently SoC's available for Android are aready way past that.

The S4 Snapdragon is considered to be the best SoC for Android (not the Exynos as you've previously incorrectly suggested).

It's my understanding that the A15 is even more advanced than the Snapdragon, okay, it may not beat it if Apple have decided to downclock it, but it will still be extremely fast and even more efficient - should that be the case.

Have a read of this, it may interest you: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Apple-A6-SOC-Cortex-A15-Hits-Market

It states that at 1.5Ghz (same as the S4), the A15 will likely outperform it, if not by much, so if they downclock it a bit, it should be roughly even - putting the notion that the phone is 'less powerful' to rest.

As ever, it's difficult to tell until the likes of iFixit and others get hold of the actual phone.

There is of course a quad-core Krait (S4) for Android on the horizon, which will be in the new LG phone, but that won't be out for a while. I assume that will be more powerful, but nobody has tested it yet.
 
I think lots of people who buy iphones dont care about clock speeds or what cpu it has, its about the easy to use os and the looks.

Indeed, as long as the performance is extremely fast then I don't care about how the phone goes about it either. I'm sure it will be, it's not as if the 4S is slow.

The main reason I want it to be the A15 is because it uses considerably less power than the current chips, which - with a decently sized battery - should make the battery life pretty great.
 
No Robbo, I never said the Exynos SoC is better than the Dual Core S4, only that The Exynos SoC equiped devices win in most benchmarks.

Yet they actually don't? The only benchmarks I've seen it win are ones optimised for older hardware.

Where are all of these benchmarks you speak of (preferably from a good source)?

You can make of that whatever you want but I think we all know what you think.

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Where are the sources for this information you linked too? looks like more guesswork. :)

I've already said that it is obviously going to be based on educated guesswork, as Apple haven't confirmed what is inside the A6.

People who play a processor spec war in phones really do my nut in. At the point the latest phone doesn't perform well its an issue. Until then, why.

I completely agree with you. I'm only discussing this in an attempt to educate someone who I believe is clearly mistaken.

As I said, I'm more interested in the SoC due to the power efficiency gains, which will directly impact the battery life - something most of us are very interested in.
 
I think the networks have had nano SIM's for a while now, I'd probably just try my closest store where possible, they'll likely have some.
 
No point banging your head on a brick wall. :p Anyway, Apple's performance claim for the A6 is in line with OMAP 5 and Exynos 5.

Apps like iPhoto will see a huge performance jump.

You're quite right!

Hmm might cancel my Apple order and order straight from the Three mobile site... That's if their site actually worked right now :p

The Three deals actually do look rather good. Specifically:

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Do i need to think about 4G or is that not even worth worrying about?

At the moment, not really. I'd only consider 4G to be important if I used my phone to tether a lot - which I don't.

If you are in a prime 4G coverage spot, with unlimited data, you could use your phone as your main internet source (if it's faster than your landline for example).

Edit: as ps3ud0 has mentioned below, 4G will be rubbish if it has a 1GB cap, fast 3G will be just as useful in that situation.

I can only assume 4G will have unlimited data as standard, or it all starts to become rather pointless.
 
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Well that does happen when your biased, you see what you want to see.

They both win benchmarks, Exynos more so due to software optimizations and Quad Core, some benchmarks benefit massively from it.




So what was the point in posting information we already know? None.

Show me these up to date benchmarks where the S4 loses to the Exynos, in all the updated versions the Exynos gets a sound beating.

Also, how am I biased? I own an Exynos S3 and think the power it has is excellent, but that doesn't change the fact it's old architecture.

It's also a bit rich calling me biased when you only post about Apple, yet you hate them. Still, my fault for replying to you.
 
You are clearly the most biased apple fanboy around. It's not like you ever put people in their place after unfairly criticising Android. You most certainly don't recommend android phones to people who need them. Worst of all, you clearly only use apple products and most certainly aren't one of the most experienced with a variety of mobile OS' on these forums :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::p

Bah, you got me! :D
 
Yes. It's a nasty, cheap, massive phone and i have big hands. I honestly cannot see the appeal of it whatsoever and the fanboyism towards it when comparing to an iPhone is crazy in my opinion. They're two very different products in my eyes.

I have decently sized hands and can handle it easily.

What don't you like about it? Are you sure you don't mean the Galaxy Note...?
 
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