Soldato
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Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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jeez, twitter is just bots screaming at each other, we really need to ban it from this forum.
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If they wanted to stop being attacked from that area, that would be one way to do so, and I think they have the ability to do it. The fact that they have not done so yet, means they have opted for more restrained approaches thus far.
Maybe you can answer my question now...
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Well Gaza is just a tad larger than Birmingham.
To be honest if they roll in force and numbers, it will be over relatively quick.
I think most people take not committing genocide somewhat for granted for any "civilised" society.
Saying that by not committing genocide they are showing "restraint", is to basically give Israel far more credit than they deserve. They show their lack of restraint in abundance by committing other acts of cruelty, murder, oppression, etc. Things that make many Jews utterly ashamed of Israel, and wanting to distance themselves from it.
Because of course, not all Jews agree with the way Israel conducts itself.
There are some disgusting "you deserved it" comments starting to appear on what seems to be her YouTube channel. I despair at people. So sad. Poor girl.
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Soldato
Israel could do it, but hasn't. Hamas hasn't done it...but only because they lack the power to do so. So no, it's not a "given" here.
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Yes although that has been curated by Israel's reluctance to make the bigger gesture of having two separate states where the Palestine's got a fair deal. It's gone on so long that all the face saving by Israel to their electorate of having to be tough has just caused the killing to continue and fed Hamas with new recruits for the martyrs that Israel created. And the cycle is about to repeat yet again.
I should say I don't support what Hamas have done but rather I can see why it's happened and why it will keep on happening unless Israel break the cycle.
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Why should it be on Israel to "break the cycle"?
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Plenty in this thread as well.
It's okay though, they support the anti gay etc and anti women point of view as well.
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So by that logic, Russia is "showing restraint" by not nuking Ukraine? I guess we should be slapping Putin on the back for his admirable restraint, what a great guy he is.
No, it's absurd and comical that you are here telling us that Israel is showing restraint by not committing all-out genocide against the Palestinians (yet).
Hamas are terrorists, yes. We do sort of expect Israel not to act like terrorists, yes. Still not seeing your argument. I was referring to Israel as the "civilised society", not Hamas.
But of course, Hamas wouldn't exist if Israel hadn't been occupying Palestinian lands and governing them with an iron fist for 50 years already...
Israel's Occupation: 50 Years of Dispossession
Mass human rights violations during the 50-year occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip have devastated the lives of millions of Palestinians.
www.amnesty.org
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I can't see any, would you care to quote them?
Hmmmm maybe all those that are pro Hama's and anti isreal, you back the cause you back the crimes .
You don't cherry pick.
Or do you agree with Hama's and it's methods?
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Where?
There are more than two options.
Who is pro-Hamas, here?
Soldato
Because Israel holds the largest amount of land and they drove the Palestine's out. It's on Israel to do the right thing and they ought to know better than most what it's like to be oppressed and persecuted. Israel just keep playing to the populist politics of striking back hard which won't solve anything. There has to come a time that you accept you can't undo the past but for the sake of others not also having to loose loved ones that you draw a line under the past. This course of action from Israel and other western countries supporting them is just not the answer. The answer needs to be thrashed out around a table with a focus on what could sincerely work.
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Still waiting for you quote all those posts in this thread saying that the innocent girl who was murdered and then desecrated deserved it. Or, as I suspect, were you simply lying and are unable to back up your assertion?
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Oh so Hama's hitting isreal is okay and deserved it but when they do something like this it's not okay now, especially when this has come out and all the 'isreal is at fault" suddenly find it uncomfortable?
You make your bed you lay in it., Don't cherry pick.
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