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Well when we see footage of the IDF executing grandmas on their own Facebook live stream i'll be the first to condemn
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Well when we see footage of the IDF executing grandmas on their own Facebook live stream i'll be the first to condemn
Probably worse?
Remembering Israel’s killing of four children on the beach in Gaza
On 16 July 2014, Israeli missile killed four children of the same family on a beach in Gaza
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Thank you. It looks like the forst shell could have been a mistake but when the drone operators asked for authorization for the second shell they didn't get it yet fired anyway. The writer of that particular piece sounded bias, but if the chain of events are accurate it sonds like the operator tried to cover up his mistake by killing the survivors of the first shot. The worst pqrt of this is the Israeli judicial system that dismissed the case. So yes I condem this.
Israel can and does prosecute their own soldiers, so it’s madneing when the system fail.
Just an example of what I expect the system to do. I thought it was a light sentence until I saw that incapacitated Palistinian attecked with a knife first. Israel's legal system still convicted him because he continued after the attacker was incapacitated:
Israeli soldier gets 18 months' jail for killing wounded Palestinian attacker
A young Israeli soldier who killed a wounded and incapacitated Palestinian assailant was sentenced to 18 months' imprisonment on Tuesday, in a show of leniency that drew Palestinian outrage after one of the most divisive trials in Israel's history.
www.reuters.com
claiming that it mistook the children for Hamas militantsProbably worse?
Remembering Israel’s killing of four children on the beach in Gaza
On 16 July 2014, Israeli missile killed four children of the same family on a beach in Gaza
Israel launched its own internal investigation
The resulting report essentially exonerated Israel from any responsibility
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The IDF has been killing civilians for years, it's well documented. The fact that they don't upload the crimes to social media doesn't change this.
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No.
Human nature on both sides is equally capable of atrocity but one side has systems in place to correct for it (systems also run by humans so they sometimes fail too) and the other side has no such error correction loop... but instead cheers and celebrates atrocities commited against their enemies.
Probably worse?
Remembering Israel’s killing of four children on the beach in Gaza
On 16 July 2014, Israeli missile killed four children of the same family on a beach in Gaza
No it isn't worse.
It is awful, and tragic, but it is not the same as purposefully killing innocent civilians in cold blood and then parading them around as trophies and filming yourself taking great joy in their deaths. Or taking hostages, and then filming their execution just for effect.
War is ****, and collateral damage and mistakes are horrible. However, they are not the same as purposeful terrorist acts targeting only civilians in cold blood.
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Two solutions.
First one people wont like (and not really a practical solution) but Genghis Khan would have been fine with it.
1: Get rid of both sets of people
2: Realise the carve up of Israel was a big mistake and re-draw the borders and have a permanent UN 2m wide presence separating the two squabbling children. Israel wont like it but tough they have had enough chances since 1945 to play nice.
First one people wont like (and not really a practical solution) but Genghis Khan would have been fine with it.
1: Get rid of both sets of people
2: Realise the carve up of Israel was a big mistake and re-draw the borders and have a permanent UN 2m wide presence separating the two squabbling children. Israel wont like it but tough they have had enough chances since 1945 to play nice.
Israel correction loop? : for illegal settlements on West bank/ethnic cleansing, detaining minors ....
Rishi&Co can rightfully condemn Hammas, but if the retribution is indiscriminate then public opinion will further deteriorate,
Rishi&Co can rightfully condemn Hammas, but if the retribution is indiscriminate then public opinion will further deteriorate,
I can't help but think they have got their hands on some new "toys" and will probably be able to take out some Israeli tanks when Israel rolls in. I would be more surprised if they have the ability to take down aircraft, but their attack was so bold that I think they still have some new tricks up their sleeve.
The way Netanyahu talked about how high the cost would be for Israel sounds like Israel is expecting heavier than normal losses on their side too.
The world is fed up to the back teeth with terrorism carried out using Islam as an excuse. I am no fan of religion but these terrorists are neither. Reference was made to Mossad and it's hit squads particularly after Munich where not one of the planners survived. That is what is required here. Cut off the head and the money, starve the animal that way.
Yes. I posted an example.Israel correction loop? : for illegal settlements on West bank/ethnic cleansing, detaining minors ....
Rishi&Co can rightfully condemn Hammas, but if the retribution is indiscriminate then public opinion will further deteriorate,
Israeli soldier gets 18 months' jail for killing wounded Palestinian attacker
A young Israeli soldier who killed a wounded and incapacitated Palestinian assailant was sentenced to 18 months' imprisonment on Tuesday, in a show of leniency that drew Palestinian outrage after one of the most divisive trials in Israel's history.
www.reuters.com
Does Hamas have anything like what I linked to?
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From my experience, war I have lived through every side does bad things. Yes some are worse than others but war is war after all, some just call it collateral damage.
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The same way we've done else where durr, create a lovely middle ground. We could call it "the punjab 2.0"?
Yes. I posted an example.
Israeli soldier gets 18 months' jail for killing wounded Palestinian attacker
A young Israeli soldier who killed a wounded and incapacitated Palestinian assailant was sentenced to 18 months' imprisonment on Tuesday, in a show of leniency that drew Palestinian outrage after one of the most divisive trials in Israel's history.
Does Hamas have anything like what I linked to?
Yes, they would give their soldier a promotion.
Cutting off the electricity was a bad move. That'll be enough to trigger a downward slide.
Did you not see the one of the naked dead German girl on the back of the truck surrounded by dancing Palestinians then?Old photo but don't think I've seen a more hideous one
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