Israel/Palestine Shenanigans
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yea and you do realise gaza has no huge tower blocks and 20 story buildings right?
it is a dense population they just don't extend up in to the sky
Soldato
They did have some towers but the israelis have sorted that out for em!
That Fox News guy is a complete tool!
Soldato
This.
This may well mean their death but if they are so keen to be martyred what do they care? They clearly have no care for their own people, they have one goal which is killing Jews.
Egypt/Jordan can manage along with them which proves Muslims and Jews can co-exist in close proximity and be civil/work together. What is the differing factor in Israeli/Palestinian conflict? Hamas. If they were wiped out things would improve tomorrow. It would be a process but there would be a way to work things by eliminating the one side in the conflict who want the total destruction of the other.
bet it gets viewers though just like the dailymail does, some people love getting riled up over nothing
Soldato
Of course Muslims and Jews can co-exist they co-existed in Palestine before it was dived, they found shelter in Muslim country's from the Nazis they fought side-by-side in crusade & the Spanish inquisition. Don't forget west bank which is not governed by Hamas the Israelis still build illegal settlements and force Palestinians form their land among other crimes. Hamas was founded in 1987 this conflict has been going on long before that the issue is Israel colonising Palestine.
Khaled Mashal Hamas's political bureau chief, said that the organization was willing to cooperate with "a resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict which included a Palestinian state based on 1967 borders", provided that Palestinian refugees held the right to return to Israel and that East Jerusalem be the new nation's capital.
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Some of his stuff is very spot on, however I wonder if he just walked into Gaza if he'd be put up as a hero or the next hostage for Hamas
Some of his stuff is very spot on, however I wonder if he just walked into Gaza if he'd be put up as a hero or the next hostage for Hamas
Why would they take him hostage? I think you need to get with the times Neil lol
Some of his stuff is very spot on, however I wonder if he just walked into Gaza if he'd be put up as a hero or the next hostage for Hamas
so what hostages have hamas taken ?
Soldato
Most recently and famously, Gilad Shalit.
Soldato
More a arrest / detention than a hostage.
Soldato
Stop trying to belittle the truth. He was a hostage held against his will for 5 years without access to his family or anyone else.
When you're arrested you can still see your family, lawyers, diplomats etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-of-his-five-years-held-hostage-by-Hamas.html
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Soldato
I guess they are using the same system Israelis use when holding Palestinians, like the 400 or so alone in this operation not to mention the 1000s prior to this round.
He was an enemy solider in combat, whilst in an occupying position. That's not kidnap or an hostage by any stretch of the imagination.
Soldato
The rest of the world does not agree with you. Every google search says he was a hostage, the media reported it as a hostage event, you're the only crackpot trying to say it wasn't. Drop the agenda and be honest with yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-of-his-five-years-held-hostage-by-Hamas.html
Image from the Daily Telegraph article:
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Soldato
Like how you ignored the earlier part, and thanks for the insult, shows how well your argument is going.
Not much else to say really, enemy solider, whilst in Palestinian lands and as an aggressor is taken prisoner. Just like how Palestinians are taken prisoner by Israel (actually worse since Palestinians are taken from their homes in their own territory), deprived of visits from the families, access to legal representation etc
I am not surprised you hold Israel and Palestine to different standards though.
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I always find it strange that the Israeli administration refer to its conflict with the Palestinians in Gaza as The War with Hamas, yet never ascribe the actual rules of War to the conflict, if it is a War then Shalit was indeed a POW rather than a hostage, and the links supplied do refer to Shalit as being a captive prisoner rather than a hostage in that context. He was released as part of a prisoner exchange.
It is important to note that Shalit, like Israeli palestinian prisoners (and US enemy combatants) are not afforded the rights ascribed to POWs under the various international conventions. Therefore you could say that all three are in violation.
It is important to note that Shalit, like Israeli palestinian prisoners (and US enemy combatants) are not afforded the rights ascribed to POWs under the various international conventions. Therefore you could say that all three are in violation.
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