Jack Straw has the right idea!

Teki187 said:
Welcome to Muslim England!

I would post some of my opinions, but im scared of how people would take them. Freedom of speech, never existed.
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Post them, just keep them polite and be prepared to be challenged to provide reasoning.
 
i'm deaf and only way to understand what people say is lip-reading them

so if i ask them to remove their veil, does that make me racist? i want to know what muslim people's view on it?
 
Ok, well im sorry for my opinions in advance.

England is being bent over and kicked hard by the "human rights" and "racism" crap that imogrants spout when they come into this country.

We let imogrants come in, they dont do anything, they sponge of the taxes and kill our people. Then we allow them to protest in our streets about how this country is treating them unfairly?

I dont go to someones house and when offered food say "no thanks, your food is horrible and i dont like your house, change it now!"

They come to our country to live by our rules, you cant just come over and expect it to change.

Sometimes i sit here reading about WW2 thinking what it would be like if hitler won the war and we only had 1 religion, since all the wars are started by cults spouting there propoganda with a twisted edge on the core beliefs.

I know my opinions are strong and i might have upset people, but my familly lost heavily in WW2 to stop the war machine and where now being invaded from the inside by something which we will never stop.

Racism is thrown around WAY to much and political correctness is just completely out of order, this country needs churchill to kick our arses into shape and make us wake up.
 
When I said above "choose to wear a veil" I deliberately tried to remove religion or predudice from my post. If I were to cover up my face, people would see me as suspicious and probably not interact as well with me. I was trying to make a point about the physical act of covering up one's face rather than try to start a muslim bashing thread. Groups of youths wearing hoodies make people uncomfortable, it's not exactly the same situation, but covering up your face for some would still be associated in a similar fashion.
 
wesley said:
i'm deaf and only way to understand what people say is lip-reading them

so if i ask them to remove their veil, does that make me racist? i want to know what muslim people's view on it?
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Is that a serious question?

Anyway the answer is no - it's common sense. Islam is not as rigid as you think nor is it as hard as you may percieve it to be.
 
tom_nieto said:
When I said above "choose to wear a veil" I deliberately tried to remove religion or predudice from my post. If I were to cover up my face, people would see me as suspicious and probably not interact as well with me. I was trying to make a point about the physical act of covering up one's face rather than try to start a muslim bashing thread. Groups of youths wearing hoodies make people uncomfortable, it's not exactly the same situation, but covering up your face for some would still be associated in a similar fashion.
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I think that is a good point, and tbh I am not too comfortable with the whole ninja outfit either, but if it's their choice then who am I to argue?

And where does it stop? Goths are perceived as being "scary" and unapproachable - should they "scrub up" before going to certain places?
 
@if ®afiq said:
Is that a serious question?

Anyway the answer is no - it's common sense. Islam is not as rigid as you think nor is it as hard as you may percieve it to be.
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yes serious question

just wanted to know what to do when a muslim woman with a veil on try to speak to me.
 
Chronos-X said:
Someone needs to balance the 'Racists Corner' tagteam of CBS and VIRII ;)
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Typical rubbish from the pro muslim lobby.
Embrace Islam or be called a racist.
Disagree with Islam = you're a racist.

Weak like all your posts and insulting as well. Say it to my face one day boy.
 
VIRII said:
Typical rubbish from the pro muslim lobby.
Embrace Islam or be called a racist.
Disagree with Islam = you're a racist.

Weak like all your posts and insulting as well. Say it to my face one day boy.
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agree 100%

Hope you people remember that it was muslims with the support of neocons that decided to trash the WW2 monument in london a couple of years ago, hows that for a fingers up to england?
 
wesley said:
yes serious question

just wanted to know what to do when a muslim woman with a veil on try to speak to me.
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Apologies if I caused any offence :o :)

If you explain that you are hard of hearing and need to read their lips they should understand.
 
Teki187 said:
agree 100%

Hope you people remember that it was muslims with the support of neocons that decided to trash the WW2 monument in london a couple of years ago, hows that for a fingers up to england?
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I caught glimpses of some muslim rioting going on in Slough over an Islamic dairy or something where a white woman was hit with a metal bar and her car was wrecked with a spade.
I can't find anything about it on the BBC, anyone got a link?
 
"Sometime overnight, someone used yellow spray paint to write “Kill Bush” on a section of the memorial where names of local veterans are displayed on a sloping wall. The same slogan, along with others, was repeated on the back of the memorial."

"The 80 year old monument was defaced with red paint and the words 'Why glorify war ?"
 
VIRII this one http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4989202.stm ?

"Seventeen-year-old business student was almost
killed. He recalls: "I was riding through the park with my cousin
when a gang muslims pushed me off my bike. About 10 of them had me
on the floor, and while my cousin escaped to get help, some of them
started hitting me with bricks. had an empty Lucozade bottle which
he smashed on my head, and another of them stabbed me in the back."
 
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@if ®afiq said:
Apologies if I caused any offence :o :)

If you explain that you are hard of hearing and need to read their lips they should understand.
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So where would they draw the line?

For example, in my job as an IT technician for a college I have to chance a lot of student passwords every day (because they have a 5 second memory!), before I can the student has to prove who they are by showing their ID card. One student is a Muslim girl/woman whose attire doesnt even have eye holes, just a mesh. Would it be aceptable for me to ask her to remove he veil to prove who she is?
 
dark_shadow said:
It's not a matter of choice if you follow Islam. For some it is an obligation. Period.
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I just want to point out that is absolutely rubbish. Mohammed disagreed with it and what exists today is purely cultural not religious.
 
starscream said:
I don't see what it has to do with Jack Straw what people wear. Lots of people complaining about political correctness in here, but isn't telling people to act/speak/dress in a certain way a perfect example of it?
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Would you go to court in a tracksuit and in your defence state "Look mate, i was only 'avin a laugh!"

Etiquette is essential to any functional society.
 
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