Suarez simply isn't a goal scorer. I said it the other week his approach play is probably on par with the likes of Messi but he simply doesn't often enough have an end product to go with it. One year he may have a Berbatov type season where he does go mental with goals but I cant see him ever consistently scoring over 30 goals year after year, that isn't a slant on him by the way as there are very few consistent 30 goal a season strikers in the PL but if you haven't got a player scoring 30 goals a season you at least need 2 players who are going to score 40 between them
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Suarez simply isn't a goal scorer. I said it the other week his approach play is probably on par with the likes of Messi but he simply doesn't often enough have an end product to go with it. One year he may have a Berbatov type season where he does go mental with goals but I cant see him ever consistently scoring over 30 goals year after year, that isn't a slant on him by the way as there are very few consistent 30 goal a season strikers in the PL but if you haven't got a player scoring 30 goals a season you at least need 2 players who are going to score 40 between them
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Yes, 50mil was a joke in all ways, I have no real issue with that, but people are saying 50mil was crazy but 20mil is too little, that is where I look at his record.
One prolific year, 2 not particularly fantastic years, inability to stay fit, bad attitude, utter flop at Chelsea, Liverpool at their best in the past decade in the league, got closer to the title the year Torres played just about the least, when he plays bad whatever team he was playing for looked impotent while Drogba on a bad day in front of goal will still bully the back four and create space and time and passes and chances for other players, Torres won't.
He's had what, 7-8 seasons now, and has had ONE great season two decent seasons, when you factor in how often he's injured, I can't see where he's so obviously such a great striker.
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I like Pince ., i think he must be on the crack pipe.
he wants utd to target Modric, iniesta and a new striker.
Important not sure what planet he is on but the likelyNess of inesta upping sticks and coming to Manchester must be on some minute scale. heck even signing Modric will be a step too far. and what's wrong with bringing wellbeck and macheda on when we need a gol to avoid getting thrown out of the champions league.
he wants utd to target Modric, iniesta and a new striker.
Important not sure what planet he is on but the likelyNess of inesta upping sticks and coming to Manchester must be on some minute scale. heck even signing Modric will be a step too far. and what's wrong with bringing wellbeck and macheda on when we need a gol to avoid getting thrown out of the champions league.
I didn't realise you were related to the Redknapp's.
Why wouldn't he get into the Real Madrid or City team? He'd have just as much chance of getting into those teams as he has getting into ours, Arsenal's or Chelsea's
Without getting into a debate about which teams Suarez would or wouldn't get into, your post suggests you think yours, Arsenal's and Chelsea's forward line is as good as Real's & Barca's. That's ridiculous.
It doesn't suggest that at all
He wouldn't get into our side as he's too similar to Rooney
He wouldn't get into Arsenal's side as they play with 1 striker RVP
He wouldn't get into the Chelsea side because he's not the target man they play with
For him to play in 2 of those teams would mean shifting him out wide.
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He would easily get into our side, Rooney could go back to playing right up top with Suarez a bit deeper.
Maybe you should have said that initially. By asking why he wouldn't get into certain sides and then saying he has as much chance getting into others, it comes across as a direcet comparison between the strengths of the sides.
As it happens I'd have him in any side in the world (although with Real it would need a bit of a rejig of system). Like Shami says, him and Rooney would be a far better front 2 than anything you have now, Chelsea only play with a target man when Drogba plays (and Suarez would walk into one of the wide forward positions anyway), he'd play alongside Aguero at City, Arsenal would certainly be a better team if they played a front 2 of RvP-Suarez (like Chelsea, he'd easily get into the side in 1 of the wide forward positions) and I'd have him ahead of Pedro, Sanchez or Villa right now in the Barca front 3 too.
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Why would you do that when Rooney in his own words is at his best playing in number 10 role? Saying we could do this and could do that to accommodate a player is like saying Arsenal could switch to 4-4-2
Yeah you're right I should have foreseen you'd come along to split hairs
Maybe to you that's how it came across but I would have thought it was fairly obvious that in terms of ability he's better than all but one of Arsenal's strikers but because of the formation they play he's not going to get a game ahead of RVP is he. Unless you play him out of position which I dont see there being much point in doing
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Sorry Newcastle didn't 'demand' anything. Liverpool's ridiculous pursuit of our number 9 meant they kept coming back with offer after offer until it got so ridiculous Newcastle folded.
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Well I think we'd be stronger doing that than how we are currently with Chicho/Welbeck up top.
Didn't Rooney have his best season ever when he played right up front? You could easily play Suarez through the middle and Rooney just off him anyway.
Yeah you're right I should have foreseen you'd come along to split hairs
Maybe to you that's how it came across but I would have thought it was fairly obvious that in terms of ability he's better than all but one of Arsenal's strikers but because of the formation they play he's not going to get a game ahead of RVP is he. Unless you play him out of position which I dont see there being much point in doing
Splitting hairs? Your post genuinely read to me as a direct comparison between the strengths of the different sides forward lines.
Anyway, are you saying Suarez couldn't play in Walcott or Gervinho's position and Arsenal wouldn't be stronger for it?
Also (on paper) a 4-2-3-1 with Suarez off RvP would make Arsenal a far better side than their current side.
In the year Rooney went goal mental we played 4-3-3 for the majority, when ever he plays with a second striker he'll always be wanting to drop deep so you need someone to play with him that's going to stay up front or on the last line, from what I've seen of Suarez he naturally wants to drop deep and get involved as well. Add to that he's not the finisher I'd want on the end of moves.
As for Arsenal I just dont see why you'd want to play him out of position, even with the license to come inside like Gervinho has I dont think you'd get the best of him out there so I didn't consider it a possibility. There's plenty of formations Arsenal could use that on paper would might make them better but I'm going on what Wenger's likely to do. For the record I certainly dont think Suarez could stick out on the touch line like Walcott does and Arsenal would be stronger for it.
EDIT: back to Rooney I've always thought his partnership with Saha was the best during his time at the club
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Getting the best out of him and him improving a side are different things. Suarez is at his best in a free role behind a striker but he'd certainly improve Arsenal's side in place Gervinho and Walcott (who doesn't just hug the touch line).
Again, whether Suarez is at his best there, he'd be an improvement on what you've got up front. Any Suarez/Rooney partnership, which ever way around you play them is better than any partnership you can put out now. Suarez is better than Rooney anyway
Again, whether Suarez is at his best there, he'd be an improvement on what you've got up front. Any Suarez/Rooney partnership, which ever way around you play them is better than any partnership you can put out now. Suarez is better than Rooney anyway
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