January Transfer Window 2016/17 - Rumours & Signings

BaZ87 · 23 Dec 2016 at 23:25

FrankJH said:
This sounds as if its a completely illegal approach/ tapping up - I'm not saying it hasn't happened previously, but its still clearly wrong surely?

I don't know which is worse - a selling club putting in a previous contract extension how much the players agent will get on a sale , or the way you describe it - both as bad as each other for different reasons.

Maybe it ends up being the same either way, but surely it should be up to the buying club how much they are willing to pay the agent - not the selling club (who really don't give a **** as the transfer fee will be increased by that % anyway)

It certainly takes one level of negotiations out of the deal (ie buying club with the agent fee which is already set) - not to mention the buying club going through the agent /player first rather than the players club.

Its also a very slippery slope, its one thing if the above approaches happen for a player who isn't getting minutes like Oscar or Schneiderlin for example, but what about the likes of Hazard /Greizmann or whoever else who is playing 90 every week.

I'm not sure why you seem so shocked. What I described is in reality no different to how transfers happen in Europe either, just to a lesser degree. Every club taps up players. No club is going to waste time negotiating with a club only to find the player is not interested in joining them. Selling clubs using agents/agreeing a fee with an agent is nothing new either - don't you remember when Heinze nearly joined Liverpool? Utd told his agent how much they wanted and to find another club.

The only real difference is that these Chinese clubs don't really care who they sign. Where as Liverpool or Utd will go to the agent of a particular player they want, these Chinese clubs are going to agents and asking who can you get for us and because of their desperation to sign somebody of note, these agents are inflating the fees.

frankel1414 · 24 Dec 2016 at 02:21

I'd snap Everton's hand off if the £40m offer for Schneiderlin and Memphis is true.

Yas786 · 24 Dec 2016 at 07:14

Clov!s said:
Statement from Arsenal, won't be spending any money. Oh surprise..

Unless we get major injuries then I don't see us panic buying. Not sure who is out there that is decent and cheap. We all know Jan transfers go for stupid money especially thevgood players.

antijoke · 24 Dec 2016 at 09:10

fez said:
Its totally suspicious is what it is. Who in their right mind pays £60m for oscar. Chelsea would sell him for half that.

I suspect Roman is strong arming them.

NexusK · 24 Dec 2016 at 09:21

Don't forget that China are trying to promote their league as the next big thing, these high profile signings for ridiculous prices keep them in the news worldwide, without them most people probably wouldn't know the league exists.

grimm · 24 Dec 2016 at 13:47

fez said:
How on earth Chelsea are getting £60m for Oscar is beyond me. £50m for Luiz was an utter joke but this is even more ridiculous.

Yeh I don't know how Chelsea do it. Maybe there's some sort of backhander going on from Abramovich, and he's doing it in order to make the Chelsea books look better.

ThestigGT999 · 24 Dec 2016 at 15:01

Julian Draxler: Wolfsburg forward to join Paris St-Germain

I thought he was Arsenal bound

Stewy · 24 Dec 2016 at 18:17

I remember him being hyped up a couple of years ago then it all went a bit dead - has he just drifted for a while? Feels very similar to Barkley in that respect.

Shamikebab · 24 Dec 2016 at 18:19

He had a few good games at the Euro's

NexusK · 24 Dec 2016 at 18:27

He's a good player but was pretty vocal about Wolfsburg not being a good enough team for him within his first season of signing for them. He's a bit like Sissoko in showing up in big games and disappearing in some others. He'll fit right in at PSG where he can go full peacock.

Stewy · 24 Dec 2016 at 19:43

'Yay I get to play in a Micky Mouse league and get to the quarter finals of the CL every year before coming up against our first competent opposition of the season and being firmly put in our place'.

I guess they get paid a lot as well but it seems a very 'easy' option, going to PSG.

omnomnom · 24 Dec 2016 at 19:45

Not really, its not like they are storming the league...

Yas786 · 25 Dec 2016 at 19:06

ThestigGT999 said:
Julian Draxler: Wolfsburg forward to join Paris St-Germain

I thought he was Arsenal bound

Thank god he wasn't, don't think he is any better than what we have at the moment. Good player but not exceptional.

BaZ87 · 26 Dec 2016 at 20:55

For the 1000th transfer window running Lucas is reportedly close to leaving. Inter have reportedly want him on loan with a view to a permanent deal in the summer. If true and he does leave then you've got to think we'll be siging at least a CB if not a CM too.

Pigeon_Killer · 28 Dec 2016 at 09:49

We've got a poor keeper in Mignolet and signed a replacement that looks equally as poor in Karius. What we need is a keeper that's solid between the sticks so why are so many former Liverpool players (Carragher most recently), pundits and commentators suggesting Joe Hart? :confused:

FrankJH · 28 Dec 2016 at 10:30

Pigeon_Killer said:
We've got a poor keeper in Mignolet and signed a replacement that looks equally as poor in Karius. What we need is a keeper that's solid between the sticks so why are so many former Liverpool players (Carragher most recently), pundits and commentators suggesting Joe Hart?

Joe Hart is probably better than either of your keepers currently - whether he would be worth what City would want to charge is another matter , not sure how long his existing contract is set to expire

Pickford might be a good shout - seems to have a lot of potential (and with a team that has every chance of being relegated, so may not be too expensive)....but maybe a bit too risky for Liverpool given he doesnt have too much experience - might be better to get a more experienced player from abroad.

Pigeon_Killer · 28 Dec 2016 at 10:48

He might be better and he was pretty reliable a few years ago but he had a shocking season last year, an atrocious Euros and was sent out on loan because he was no longer trusted. It would be like sacking Rolf Harris as your nanny and employing Jimmy Savile instead.

Andybtsn · 28 Dec 2016 at 12:36

Pickford could turn out to be another Mignolet, Liverpool need an experienced keeper in their prime like Arsenal did with Cech.

FrankJH · 28 Dec 2016 at 12:58

Pigeon_Killer said:
He might be better and he was pretty reliable a few years ago but he had a shocking season last year, an atrocious Euros and was sent out on loan because he was no longer trusted. It would be like sacking Rolf Harris as your nanny and employing Jimmy Savile instead.

Chelsea also had an attrocious season, yet with virtually the same starting XI they (Luis and Kante the only major player changes) are top of the league - and not sure it because Pep didnt trust him or whether he wanted a different style of keeper

Its not like City's defence is even that decent this season let alone last, so its not all Hart's fault even if the buck always falls with him as the gk.

Pigeon_Killer · 28 Dec 2016 at 13:11

If Pep didn't think he suited their style of play it makes even less sense for us to be in for Hart because Klopp wants very similar attributes from our keeper.

I don't actually think we'll be in for a keeper during this window, a CB and winger if anyone, but I really can't see Hart coming to Liverpool.