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Pointless job tho m9

It is a pointless job if you like anything other than money. You win the league and get sacked for not winning the champions league. You win the champions league and get sacked for not winning the league. The very next year after winning you have become sackable just because you can’t repeat the feat. You can’t build a legacy at Real Madrid. You have to play football with what you get handed and get sacked within 24 months. You could do the treble three years on the trot and then get sacked in the fourth year for only doing the double.

Then what, find another club and try to restart what he did started at Spurs. I’m. It saying he should stay at Spurs, I just don’t think Madrid is a good career move for him or anyone interested in actually building a fine foundation for years to come.

The only reason that retarded way of running a club continues is because the finances between the top 2 and competition in the league is pretty much guaranteed that they finish in a champions league spot. You couldn’t run a premiership club like that and finish top 4 year on year.

14 managers in 17 years. Great for a retirement pay off.
 
It is a pointless job if you like anything other than money.
Depends if 'what he did at Spurs' actually amounts to anything doesn't it? There's just as much chance of becoming the Spurs equivalent of David Moyes, managing for a decade but never really winning anything of note. He's always struck me as significantly more ambitious than that so if Spurs don't perform for him in the next couple of seasons, he may wish he had moved on sooner.

Madrid would at least be a big payday and I've no doubt if that only lasted a year he'd walk into somewhere else like Munich, Dortmund, Paris, maybe even bigger PL teams. It would hardly be a career ender for him.

Overall, far from pointless IMO
 
I don’t think you could build a legacy at either Barca or Real. Real is a poisoned chalice job wise as danny just said above.

Barca don’t have a habit of sacking managers on the scale Real do. But it doesn’t seem like their managers stay there for more than 3-4 yrs.
 
I can't see Arsenal selling us Ozil this window, there would be a riot.

Nope, would be happy, he's still dire frequently and seems to want 300k+ a week to stay and absolutely thinks he can get that elsewhere.

Would much prefer to sell him and get Auba, maybe Malcom as well. If we did move back to a 4-4-2 with Auba/Laca, Mihki and Ozil wide would be a disaster, Ozil in the middle would be a disaster. Even now I don't like Ozil playing out wide and through the middle we have Wilshere, Ramsey, if Wilshere was played in a no.10 role with two midfielders behind him he has the drive, dribbling and a great eye and ability to make a throughball or really any kind of pass. He's been more creative or as creative as Ozil recently.

For me Ozil still has the mentality that doesn't work, short spells of playing really well but over 4 years they are few and far between. Anything over 150k a week for the consistency he shows is bad, well maybe 200k these days, more than that is just a waste and can be spent MUCH better.

Get some cash, get Utd to spend way too much on him, win win. Put that money towards Malcom or similar younger hungrier high potential player for a position we actually need, a quality wide player or central midfielder as well as Auba.
 
Surely United have bigger things to resolve than more attacking options. Unleaa we're going on a ridiculous spending spree that is...
 
Spurs after Lucas Moura...hes been awful at psg so yea...good luck.
i dont think he is a winger. He is a bit of a Brazillian James Milner - good engine, no tricks, no pace but a relatively average football brain.

We really need some raw pace
 
Klopp admitted can is just running down the contract, well that was obvious to all. Regardless of dijk and keita, klopp has not handled transfers over all well since joining us imo, left us short most of time, yet again we have nothing from the bench that's good enough.

Salah, Mane etc are quality, but clearly he wants rid of sturridge, so we been using solanke who isn't ready, Ings I can't judge due to unlucky injuries.

Midfield needs a creator now, even if we still had countinho it was still something we needed, instead we need two now.
 
Nah, i'd still take Ozil in a heartbeat, fantastic player when he feels like it.
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wouldn't touch him with a barge pole for few games a season he actually puts effort in.

edit - I also see Martial being the most likely on the left with Sanchez / Lingard centrally , I just don't see the point of paying a fortune for a No 10 that isn't consistently decent.

Even if its Sanchez on the left, Martial may not be a natural No10 but even with him just on the pitch it gives tactical options before subs, and more fluid in the area behind the striker.

Surely United have bigger things to resolve than more attacking options. Unleaa we're going on a ridiculous spending spree that is...

Practically everywhere excluding gk, left full back, No10 & left forward.
 
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wouldn't touch him with a barge pole for few games a season he actually puts effort in.

edit - I also see Martial being the most likely on the left with Sanchez / Lingard centrally , I just don't see the point of paying a fortune for a No 10 that isn't consistently decent.

Even if its Sanchez on the left, Martial may not be a natural No10 but even with him just on the pitch it gives tactical options before subs, and more fluid in the area behind the striker.



Practically everywhere excluding gk, left full back, No10 & left forward.
Although it' aa few months old, this suggests Ozil isn' a la as people think he is. http://www.skysports.com/football/n...fair-the-stats-on-his-arsenal-role-and-record
 
Although it' aa few months old, this suggests Ozil isn' a la as people think he is. http://www.skysports.com/football/n...fair-the-stats-on-his-arsenal-role-and-record


This is BS 'journalism', you're basically buying a story written by his agent.

He's not lazy, no one ever basically accuses him of being lazy. People accused him of being mostly just crap against tough opposition in the first 18 months at Arsenal. In the first 6 months, new team only a few big games that can be put down to needing time to adjust to players, team, style, league, but after a year he'd been through shocking european performances, bad performances against tougher opposition with better midfielders giving him less space and the games he barely tries.

SPrints, runs, distance covered on average doesn't account for specific games and don't really tell anyone anything.

The media (almost certainly done via a push from his agent/pr people) decided to immediately make all that just people calling him lazy, then proceeded to prove he wasn't lazy via distance covered. The thing about Ozil is when he needs to close someone down, just like Walcott does so often, where Sanchez and Wilshere types would run fast to close down the space then get really close and get within 1 ft of intercepting the ball, Ozil will jog over but stop 3m short and never come close to intercepting the ball or making a tackle.

Distance covered and sprint would be almost identical in both cases but the intensity, the intention and the end result is different. Watch Ozil close down in any game compared to others, it's slower and it's almost always 'for show' where he nearly never shows any actual intention to win the ball. When Sanchez would run at you, you had players turning around and finding a pass they don't want. When it's Ozil they aren't scared of him, they stand there, Ozil stops and they look for the pass they want or just run around him with no real fight.

His quality, the intensity of his game and his effectiveness drops to near pointless levels in probably 60-70% of the toughest games and he's almost always the first to go missing in the round of 16 in the CL. You pay the best players the most because they bring their A game to those toughest games much more often than an average player, not much less.

Laziness isn't the issue, it was never the issue, it was never an accusation. When people attacked his quality, media reframed it as people accusing him of being lazy because the media felt they could use stupid stats to disprove that.
 
I did notice some of his 'for show' tracking back in the Chelsea game the other day, runs up to players then just kinda marks the area around them like a basketball player before they make an interception.

He needs a team built around him because he offers nothing defensively, according to that same article he is 1st for chances created, 1st for assists, 1st for big chances created. He's an easy scapegoat for when the team isn't playing well because thats when he's usually found out. I'd love the chance to see what he'd be like with a decent DM in the team and someone like Auba.
 
Did you just pay Walcott a compliment?

No, I'm saying he does the same thing as Ozil, but even worse because Ozil is generally slow while Walcott if he actually went that last few metres, with his pace could put severe pressure on players on the ball but like Ozil is a giant female genitalia and just pretends he's closing people down.


There isn't anything wrong with marking the area, it's a very important part of the game defensively but Ozil does even that poorly. IT's that the player knows he won't actually make the tackle, so he's under no pressure and can just stand there waiting for the movement upfront then move a few yards and make the pass easily. Sanchez will close, the guy knows a tackle is coming and has to move and even if he sees the nice run he knows Sanchez will stay on him and make the pass forward difficult so he goes for the pass sideways or backwards instead.

There are times you only want to mark the space and save energy, that is fine, there are times you actually need to make the effort and put the opposition under pressure, Ozil is nearly incapable of the later and he's poor at the former as well.

He just puts in less urgency, less aggression and less bravery into almost everything he does. As a cheaper player you might drop for the biggest games he's great, as the most expensive wage earner which you want to pay to the guys who play the best in those games, he's a complete waste of money.
 
No, I'm saying he does the same thing as Ozil, but even worse because Ozil is generally slow while Walcott if he actually went that last few metres, with his pace could put severe pressure on players on the ball but like Ozil is a giant female genitalia and just pretends he's closing people down.


There isn't anything wrong with marking the area, it's a very important part of the game defensively but Ozil does even that poorly. IT's that the player knows he won't actually make the tackle, so he's under no pressure and can just stand there waiting for the movement upfront then move a few yards and make the pass easily. Sanchez will close, the guy knows a tackle is coming and has to move and even if he sees the nice run he knows Sanchez will stay on him and make the pass forward difficult so he goes for the pass sideways or backwards instead.

There are times you only want to mark the space and save energy, that is fine, there are times you actually need to make the effort and put the opposition under pressure, Ozil is nearly incapable of the later and he's poor at the former as well.

He just puts in less urgency, less aggression and less bravery into almost everything he does. As a cheaper player you might drop for the biggest games he's great, as the most expensive wage earner which you want to pay to the guys who play the best in those games, he's a complete waste of money.
Was he like that at real Madrid?
 
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