Junior doctor strike: Union's pay demands unrealistic, says Steve Barclay

neocon said:
Yes, there's a lag, but I'm sure it was hard 7 years ago. They should be banned from striking.
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Yes it was. There was a stike just around 7 years ago when the government imposed a contract on JDs. Then further years of pay freezes.

If you can't strike and the Government can imposed terms on you at will how do you avoid being taken for a ride? JDs are too vital to strike but also too vital to be allowed to know your worth it would seem.
 
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Chris Wilson said:
The aviation industry knew certain flights from Africa were a high percentage of heavily pregnant women coming to the UK to give birth in our NHS facilities, they even had a fun name for these flights which I forget. They were coming in solely to defraud the NHS and the NHS watched and allowed it to happen. Not the doctor's money being wasted, was it? Bit diferent when it IS the doctor's money being in question. STRIKE! STRIKE!

If I go and see a consultant privately his secretary has my card details before he even lays a stethoscope upon me. NO WAY do I get out without paying. Yet 155 different countries have had criminal patients abscond without paying due to sheer negligence by the NHS.

And yes, you simply don't treat them. Unless you are happy it will never end and for NHS funding to be used ad infinitum by devious criminals?
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anything to back up your statements or is it just more unfounded bile you read on the side of a bus?
 
Diddums said:
Over the last three years our household have used the NHS far more than any family should have to, for brain stuff, heart stuff, cancer stuff, regular checkups etc. The only complaint I had was that some of the appointments took rather longer than we'd have liked, but when you come from a country where there is no medical care unless it's private, you soon learn to appreciate the NHS.

As usual Chris hasn't got a clue what he's talking about and is probably figuring out a way to blame immigration.
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Chris wouldn't have to try very hard, would he?

Source: https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac....-impact-of-migration-on-uk-population-growth/

Based at the Centre on Migration, Policy and Society (COMPAS) at the University of Oxford, the Migration Observatory provides impartial, independent, authoritative, evidence-based analysis of data on migration and migrants in the UK, to inform media, public and policy debates, and to generate high quality research on international migration and public policy issues.

The Observatory’s analysis involves experts from a wide range of disciplines and departments at the University of Oxford



  • More than half (60%) of the increase of the UK population between 2001 and 2020 was due to the direct contribution of net migration.
  • UK’s population is projected to grow to approximately 72m by 2045
Plus the number of illegal migrants coming ashore daily, around 1000 a day sometimes, has a slow but inexorable effect on alledged dwindling medical services, it would be hard to argue otherwise.

But all is not lost, we are told these migrants are doctors. Engineers. Professional men!

Aren't they?....
 
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Chris Wilson said:
Chris wouldn't have to try very hard, would he?

  • More than half (60%) of the increase of the UK population between 2001 and 2020 was due to the direct contribution of net migration.
  • UK’s population is projected to grow to approximately 72m by 2045
Plus the number of illegal migrants coming ashore daily, around 1000 a day sometimes, has a slow but inexorable effect on alledged dwindling medical services, it would be hard to argue otherwise.

But all is not lost, we are told these migrants are doctors. Engineers. Professional men!

Aren't they?....
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Nothing you ever say comes with any credible sources so to that end...


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Chris Wilson said:
To be succinctly back on point I most sincerely hope Barclay stands firm and those junior doctors who don't like it sod off to their greener, more generous pastures abroad.
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And you're complaining about seeing a doctor now lol.
I hope you enjoy your private medical insurance premiums.
And I see you've got your normal rant about immigration in too, well done. Every thread...
 
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