Junior doctor strike: Union's pay demands unrealistic, says Steve Barclay

The knights move thinking in this thread is amazing. Not sure how junior doctors have any bearing at all over whether money is recouped from overseas service users? They certainly don’t have any bearing on how GP practices are run.

Public sector workers deserve proper pay.
 
The knights move thinking in this thread is amazing. Not sure how junior doctors have any bearing at all over whether money is recouped from overseas service users? They certainly don’t have any bearing on how GP practices are run.

Public sector workers deserve proper pay.
It does have a direct influence, cutting costs less doctors hired more work for those as doctors. (Staff Resourcing)
 
How do you stop non resident women entering the UK heavily pregnant? Because you can't really leave them to elements once they are here.
 
How do you stop non resident women entering the UK heavily pregnant? Because you can't really leave them to elements once they are here.
Simple get transport companies to include insurance on their ticket sales. I have been to countries were they would not see you unless you have insurance and even then they will phone up the insurance company to see if it is valid.
 
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The knights move thinking in this thread is amazing. Not sure how junior doctors have any bearing at all over whether money is recouped from overseas service users? They certainly don’t have any bearing on how GP practices are run.

Public sector workers deserve proper pay.

Public sector workers need to get back into their proper workplaces first. An ONS survey has found that 48% public servants are working either partly or fully from home.
 
How do you stop non resident women entering the UK heavily pregnant? Because you can't really leave them to elements once they are here.
Every time I travel I buy travel insurance for 1 year with more than 30 days stay, and for multi travel. I do not expect the host health service to look after me for free.
If you can afford a plane/boat/ train ticket you can afford travel insurance.
 
Public sector workers need to get back into their proper workplaces first. An ONS survey has found that 48% public servants are working either partly or fully from home.
you really don’t have a grasp for the group that this thread is about so you? Junior doctors are on the coal face, front line. They deserve recompense for the incredibly challenging, incredibly valuable role that they fill.
 
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Even a dinghy trip, which, by all accounts is far more expensive than getting to the UK by legitimate means. The NHS are haemoraghing money that the juniors are striking for dealing with these charlatans, (and the health tourists). It's in your own interests, juniors, to boot them out, unless those striking also have a political agenda ...
Half of the problem is the Aunties in admin on the NHS. Every hour they are on a fag break, tea and digestive biscuit break.
Also there is a problem to reach consultant level doctors have to wait for one to retire to take their place.
 
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Every time I travel I buy travel insurance for 1 year with more than 30 days stay, and for multi travel. I do not expect the host health service to look after me for free.
If you can afford a plane/boat/ train ticket you can afford travel insurance.
Yes but travel insurance won't cover pregnancy.

I guess you could have a rule that any woman of child bearing age can't board a flight to the UK without insurance that covers pregnancy, but difficult to enforce
 
you really don’t have a grasp for the group that this thread is about so you? Junior doctors are on the coal face, front line. They deserve recompense for the incredibly challenging, incredibly valuable role that they fill.

They must then go to wherever that recompense suits their aspirations.
 
Half of the problem is the Aunties in admin on the NHS. Every hour they are on a fag break, tea and digestive biscuit break.
Also there is a problem to reach consultant level doctors have to wait for one to retire to take their place.
Again, irrelevant to the thread but also zero grasp of NHS working other than Daily Mail / Daily Express Bilge. Administrative posts aren't a mother's meeting. Underpaid, undervalued, overworked.
 
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Public sector workers need to get back into their proper workplaces first. An ONS survey has found that 48% public servants are working either partly or fully from home.

Great idea, apart from the fact that we are quickly losing staff to jobs where people can work from home. Often for more money, with a lot less pressure and no life and death decisions to make. If only there was something that could be done...I don't know, maybe a monthly payment where people get fairly rewarded for the effort, and makes them feel like sticking around.
 
I have no idea why they are wasting their time striking, if they are in such demand elsewhere, for significantly better remuneration, in better countries, why are they wasting their lives ululating about their diabolical situations here?
 
Public sector workers need to get back into their proper workplaces first. An ONS survey has found that 48% public servants are working either partly or fully from home.

Utterly irrelevant.

We've had:

- Lazy GPs
- Health tourists
- Working from home

Any more unrelated points you'd like to drag up in this thread?
 
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I have no idea why they are wasting their time striking, if they are in such demand elsewhere, for significantly better remuneration, in better countries, why are they wasting their lives ululating about their diabolical situations here?
Because, and this might be a wild and strange idea for you to comprehend.

They care about the UK, and they care about the people here, and want a situation where they can do their jobs and earn enough to live here whilst having a chance to have a family and some sort of life outside of work?
 
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