"Just stop oil"

CapitalOne said:
For everyone here who was obviously impacted directly today (I can tell from the strong vibes) why don’t you set up a “Just Stop Just Stop Oil?” movement? You’ll regularly be travelling on the M25 anyway so are probably really well placed to do something like beating them up the gantries (I mean being there first)pretending to be cleaners or maintenance folk.

Easy :D
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Dartford tunnel fubar. Looks like someone on gantry above exit of tunnel. Lots of police. :(. Stuck on exit ramp to Erith. I did give the bird as I went past so did my bit.
 
Eeek, that girl on M25 blubbering on camera saying she has no future. Couldn't make past the first few seconds. Someone previously said on this forum, they desperately need some PR control, professional direction can win the hearts and minds.

It's such a mess really, In a way i feel sorry for them, trying so hard yet making zero difference, just annoying millions.
 
I doubt any professional pr team could get them the attention they are getting now without using the exact same tactics.

Whether you agree with them or not you can’t deny it’s working (through the fog of outrage that is).
 
Ali195 said:
Eeek, that girl on M25 blubbering on camera saying she has no future. Couldn't make past the first few seconds. Someone previously said on this forum, they desperately need some PR control, professional direction can win the hearts and minds.

It's such a mess really, In a way i feel sorry for them, trying so hard yet making zero difference, just annoying millions.
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Yet we are here talking about it...she's making it a conversation.

That girl for all the mocking she has been on the end of has absolute balls of steel for what she's doing and lets have it right....she's correct. Something needs to change and quick.
 
There was a decent police presence there this morning, but they seem incapable of doing anything. Just leave them on the gantry and carry on.

omnomnom said:
Yet we are here talking about it...she's making it a conversation.

That girl for all the mocking she has been on the end of has absolute balls of steel for what she's doing and lets have it right....she's correct. Something needs to change and quick.
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But in actual fact other than disrupting people trying to put food on the table nothing else will change. It’s a conversation we were already having. Absolute scum the lot of them.
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
There was a decent police presence there this morning, but they seem incapable of doing anything. Just leave them on the gantry and carry on.



But in actual fact other than disrupting people trying to put food on the table nothing else will change. It’s a conversation we were already having. Absolute scum the lot of them.
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Its not though is it. This is the 27th COP...Why has it taken a war in Russia for people to actually wake up about whats going on?

Instead they decide to all fly to Egypt using the equivalent of 10,000 homes worth of energy when they simply could have done it on video.

Whether people like it or not, she's correct, they are correct.
 
It's getting them in the news for the disruption but that aside it's nothing else. I expect Good Law Project and the like are more effective at holding the Gov to account and so the potential reach for impact across the whole county.


I get it, the little guy has to start some place, we can't all be lobbyists, lawyers for good causes and testing the law. Are there better ways? Drum up local support, get the Greens in, go around passing leaflets about why not to buy an SUV, something but this, blocking roads and such....
 
CaptainRAVE said:
But in actual fact other than disrupting people trying to put food on the table nothing else will change. It’s a conversation we were already having. Absolute scum the lot of them.
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I know it's just semantics and rhetoric, but "trying to put food on the table" really should be a clue as to who really deserve your insults.
 
Jelly4mybelly said:
Completely agree and no doubt costing the economy to boot. Throw them all into a single cell for a few years and forget about them.
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Costing the economy at a time when we can ill afford it, ironically making less money available for renewables. This lot really are thick.

omnomnom said:
Its not though is it. This is the 27th COP...Why has it taken a war in Russia for people to actually wake up about whats going on?

Instead they decide to all fly to Egypt using the equivalent of 10,000 homes worth of energy when they simply could have done it on video.

Whether people like it or not, she's correct, they are correct.
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Agreed, it’s moronic, but holding up the M25 isn’t exactly doing anything to help. Go protest outside number 10.
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
Costing the economy at a time when we can ill afford it, ironically making less money available for renewables. This lot really are thick.



Agreed, it’s moronic, but holding up the M25 isn’t exactly doing anything to help. Go protest outside number 10.
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But they aren’t listening. Which doesn’t make sense. Why don’t the government engage with them? The government have admitted there’s a climate emergency. They acknowledge we need to move away from fossil fuels. They accept we need more renewables. However they grant new licenses for new oil. Why? We don’t need it.
Just Stop Oil are protesting against new oil. The government haven’t listened to them so they need to conduct direct action to get their message heard and try and engage with decision makers and get public support on board. How else are they to do it?

Protests/rallies/demos block streets ALL THE TIME. Why aren’t there people suggesting locking these people up and attacking them? What is it specifically about this group that upsets you so much? Is it because you know they are right, but you aren’t willing to be slightly inconvenienced for the greater good?
 
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Ahleckz said:
Protests/rallies/demos block streets ALL THE TIME. Why aren’t there people suggesting locking these people up and attacking them? What is it specifically about this group that upsets you so much? Is it because you know they are right, but you aren’t willing to be slightly inconvenienced for the greater good?
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Slightly?

That must be a wind up.
 
omnomnom said:
Instead they decide to all fly to Egypt using the equivalent of 10,000 homes worth of energy when they simply could have done it on video.
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you are dead right on this... the optics of it are awful.... if ever there was a meeting crying out for remote over zoom, surely this is it?..... it could have still been broadcast and put together properly. hell they could all put on quest headsets (great marketing opportunity for meta .;) ) and done it in the "meta"Verse

I have to drive accross the M25 in a few weeks. suffice to say am nervous as hell as i have somewhere i need to be.
 
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