"Just stop oil"

Protests/rallies/demos block streets ALL THE TIME. Why aren’t there people suggesting locking these people up and attacking them? What is it specifically about this group that upsets you so much? Is it because you know they are right, but you aren’t willing to be slightly inconvenienced for the greater good?
There's a massive difference between a large protest with 1000s of people ending up blocking streets (which are often organised in advance), and small numbers of people going out of their way to deliberately inconvenience others, with that disruption being the primary aim rather than a side effect.
 
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There's a massive difference between a large protest with 1000s of people ending up blocking streets (which are often organised in advance), and small numbers of people going out of their way to deliberately inconvenience others, with that disruption being the primary aim rather than a side effect.
Didn’t mention 1000s of people. Let’s look at Glasgow this Sunday. There are 7 demos/rallies/protests (whatever you call them, they will all cause lots of disruption and block roads and prevent people from going about their business) with an average of 51 people attending each.

Yet there’s no one threatening to attack them. There’s not people who live miles away from these protests telling them they should be murdered and locked up.

Why are you so anti them? What makes you so upset about this group but not others that use similar tactics? What is it specifically about the just stop oil group that you want them to suffer physical harm and detainment?
 
Let's hope they start dishing out the 10 year jail sentences.
And who are you letting out of prison to allow this given the jails are full…Thieves? Those who commit violent crimes? Murderers? Rapists?
It’s just laughable how frothy you are but you are incapable of explaining why you are frothing.
 
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Didn’t mention 1000s of people. Let’s look at Glasgow this Sunday. There are 7 demos/rallies/protests (whatever you call them, they will all cause lots of disruption and block roads and prevent people from going about their business) with an average of 51 people attending each.

Yet there’s no one threatening to attack them. There’s not people who live miles away from these protests telling them they should be murdered and locked up.

Why are you so anti them? What makes you so upset about this group but not others that use similar tactics? What is it specifically about the just stop oil group that you want them to suffer physical harm and detainment?

Zeitgiest innit :D
 
Didn’t mention 1000s of people. Let’s look at Glasgow this Sunday. There are 7 demos/rallies/protests (whatever you call them, they will all cause lots of disruption and block roads and prevent people from going about their business) with an average of 51 people attending each.

Yet there’s no one threatening to attack them. There’s not people who live miles away from these protests telling them they should be murdered and locked up.

Why are you so anti them? What makes you so upset about this group but not others that use similar tactics? What is it specifically about the just stop oil group that you want them to suffer physical harm and detainment?
I suppose the difference is if you block a street in a city centre it may be irritating but you get get around easily enough. block the M25 or Dartford crossing and you get stuck in a jam with possibly children or elderly and there is no where you can go. you can't even get out of it to go another way.

this Sunday you say? I bet there will be a lot of chuntering however if protesters block the rememberence day marches.
 
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But they aren’t listening. Which doesn’t make sense. Why don’t the government engage with them? The government have admitted there’s a climate emergency. They acknowledge we need to move away from fossil fuels. They accept we need more renewables. However they grant new licenses for new oil. Why? We don’t need it.
Just Stop Oil are protesting against new oil. The government haven’t listened to them so they need to conduct direct action to get their message heard and try and engage with decision makers and get public support on board. How else are they to do it?

Protests/rallies/demos block streets ALL THE TIME. Why aren’t there people suggesting locking these people up and attacking them? What is it specifically about this group that upsets you so much? Is it because you know they are right, but you aren’t willing to be slightly inconvenienced for the greater good?
Except there are no renewables without new Oil, each Wind turbine won't function without about 400 odd litres of PAO synthetic lubricant thats based on crude, that needs replacing each year.

Lets not even get into the fact that each one needs about 900 metric tons of steel, I wonder whats required for that! ;)
 
But they aren’t listening. Which doesn’t make sense. Why don’t the government engage with them? The government have admitted there’s a climate emergency. They acknowledge we need to move away from fossil fuels. They accept we need more renewables. However they grant new licenses for new oil. Why? We don’t need it.
Just Stop Oil are protesting against new oil. The government haven’t listened to them so they need to conduct direct action to get their message heard and try and engage with decision makers and get public support on board. How else are they to do it?

Protests/rallies/demos block streets ALL THE TIME. Why aren’t there people suggesting locking these people up and attacking them? What is it specifically about this group that upsets you so much? Is it because you know they are right, but you aren’t willing to be slightly inconvenienced for the greater good?

It makes no difference to my life, but I feel for those whose lives this lot of idiots have cost.
 
Didn’t mention 1000s of people. Let’s look at Glasgow this Sunday. There are 7 demos/rallies/protests (whatever you call them, they will all cause lots of disruption and block roads and prevent people from going about their business) with an average of 51 people attending each.

Yet there’s no one threatening to attack them. There’s not people who live miles away from these protests telling them they should be murdered and locked up.

Why are you so anti them? What makes you so upset about this group but not others that use similar tactics? What is it specifically about the just stop oil group that you want them to suffer physical harm and detainment?
Presumably the fact that you have the details of these protests means they have been organised in consultation with the authorities in advance, and the disruption is necessary in order to provide a space for them to protest. That is not the same as a few people deliberately blocking a road (let alone throwing soup around or whatever).

If there are other groups using similar tactics as you suggest then I strongly disapprove of them too, but just stop oil are the most high profile so of course people will comment on them.

People dislike the just stop oil type protests because they are clearly designed purely to cause disruption and inconvenience, other protests do not come across like that.

Edit: not to mention the destructive imagery of throwing soup at paintings and throwing paint around etc. Even if this wasn't actually them they are also associated with acts by other campaigners such as pouring **** over a public figure's memorial. Seems quite clear to me why people might not like a group which does stuff like this.
 
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I'd be willing to bet half of these saps protesting don't even have any real view or knowledge on what it is they're protesting, it's just an excuse to get on the news

I'm also willing to bet that virtually all of them went to some sort of art college
 
Except there are no renewables without new Oil, each Wind turbine won't function without about 400 odd litres of PAO synthetic lubricant thats based on crude, that needs replacing each year.

Lets not even get into the fact that each one needs about 900 metric tons of steel, I wonder whats required for that! ;)
You can't just join an environmental debate and make sensible suggestions that any energy transition is going to require fossil fuels to make. That kind of practical well thought out idea has no place in modern feelings based doomsday cult politics. You should be ashamed.
 
Except there are no renewables without new Oil, each Wind turbine won't function without about 400 odd litres of PAO synthetic lubricant thats based on crude, that needs replacing each year.

Lets not even get into the fact that each one needs about 900 metric tons of steel, I wonder whats required for that! ;)
you are right of course... for now at least we just cant totally divorce ourselves from fossil fuels... but bio lubrication is surely on the way.... I dont support what these people are doing but do fully support the notion that oil is a precious commodity and should be treated as such, and not wastefully burned. it should be used when there is no other really practical solution......

Also.... using it as a lube would presumably mean even after 12 months when those 400l are replaced, it wont have gone into the atmosphere as CO2 so using oil in that way is more sensible than burining it.
 
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