LOST..... How do you think it will end
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the smoke monster cannot kill the candidates.
this is why he kills some people but not others, example black rock, he kills everyone apart from richard. only candidates can kill jacob, that is why he sends richard to kill jacob.
it seems as though he wants the candidates to leave. therefore i dont understand why he saves jack, if hes dead then its a lot easier than making him leave.
therefore i think its going to be a lot more complicated answer than something religious.
what makes candidates so special? that they cannot be killed by the monster. why do we even need candidates? why couldnt jacob just pick someone?
the show is becoming stupid now and i think the answer they come up with will be like the sopranos and the screen just goes black, so nobody knows anything, leaving people to complain and get talking about lost again and how dissapointed they were.
i dont think the ending will good enough to satisfy any lost fan, unless they are dumb
this is why he kills some people but not others, example black rock, he kills everyone apart from richard. only candidates can kill jacob, that is why he sends richard to kill jacob.
it seems as though he wants the candidates to leave. therefore i dont understand why he saves jack, if hes dead then its a lot easier than making him leave.
therefore i think its going to be a lot more complicated answer than something religious.
what makes candidates so special? that they cannot be killed by the monster. why do we even need candidates? why couldnt jacob just pick someone?
the show is becoming stupid now and i think the answer they come up with will be like the sopranos and the screen just goes black, so nobody knows anything, leaving people to complain and get talking about lost again and how dissapointed they were.
i dont think the ending will good enough to satisfy any lost fan, unless they are dumb
Ben killed Jacob, was he a candidate?
Is there any need to be so patronising? I'm not a confused child so dont refer to my posts as if i am. I'm sorry that you take the show very seriously and get so clearly defensive when it;s shortfalls are addressed.
My questions are those they've presented to us blatantly and deliberately. I'm not lost in some fantasy universe where i hope that somewhere the show is real and thus overthink everything that flashes up on the screen. The "questions" I refer to are plot-making screen bites that have no explanation.
And it's fact that they've made huge set pieces on purpose and never revisited them. Walts special powers, for one. They just removed him from the show. Another colossal balls up was Annie and The Volcano. This is a quote from the producers in Series 3:
"Annie is going to prove to be very significant in Ben's life," and that even the island's volcano will be "slightly less important than Annie, but still seismic."
And NEITHER of them have been addressed. In fact, 4 years after Annie gave ben the little carved doll, she appeared to no longer exist on the island at all.
There are plenty of these. That's hardly arbitrary when it is describe by the producers themselves as being hugely important.
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He was at some point. But its likely that he had his name scratched off the wall prior to his killing Jacob.
They've said in the podcasts iirc that Annie doesnt really have any more importance than just having been an important person in Bens life, the Volcano will be having an appearance in some form or another i imagine.
As for Walt its not really the fact that they 'took him out of the show' but more of the fact that the actor has physically aged to far past the role of being able to play Walt again. That was there reasoning, but granted there probably was a way around it if they'd tried harder.
Tbh lost will never hand you all these little answers on a plate, its up to the viewers to put the pieces together which imo is where allot of the fun comes from watching the show, when something clicks. The writers will be focusing on the 'big' story centered around Jacob and the MIB. Like i said, the episode after next will answer allot of questions
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Jacob and the MiB didn't even appear until the Finale of Season 5. If the first 5 seasons were "building up" to the clash between the two, with Jacob's name thrown in here and there, then it's safe to assume that you want that build up explained. If you don't explain it, then the first 5 seasons were just filler material, and filler material is crap and pointless. You could have just opened at the beggining of Season 5, then had the big clash between these two demigods.
Walt and Annie are not the only two. In any case, let me address your counter argument for the Walt problem.
The creators of Lost admitted during the filming of the first season that they'd have to make 6 series to make their money back. That's always been known. The creators, (Abrams et al) know how long it takes to make a Season, and understand that networks like to leave big gaps between airing them. So why, with all their knowledge of TV production, would they build up a child actor into a major part, knowing full well the duration of filming would likely span across years, and that those years would have an obvious effect on that child actor? It was irresponsible at best, shortsighted at worse. I don;t believe they "accidentally" didn't take into account that the child would age, that would be enormously stupid and not something that could be attributed to the type of people that are creating this show. They're not stupid, if anything they've had a very clear idea of where they're going the entire time.
Which leaves the only other option, that they never intended to resolve Walt's story. They've already backtracked on Annie and The Volcano, why wouldn't they back track on this?
Thus, they're not going to tie up some important pinnacles of the plot.
I'm not saying it's a bad show. I'm merely saying that they've purposefully created important plot elements with the sole intention of keeping people watching and filling up network air time, with no intention of following them up. They're not just little bits here and there that could be attributed to "back story" like Adam and Eve, or why Desmond is "immune" to the rules of time travel (in Faradays words) or things like that. Walt was a major plot subject throughout the whole of Series 2, not some half-arsed character with issues mentioned on the back of some other unexplained mystery.
Walt and Annie are not the only two. In any case, let me address your counter argument for the Walt problem.
The creators of Lost admitted during the filming of the first season that they'd have to make 6 series to make their money back. That's always been known. The creators, (Abrams et al) know how long it takes to make a Season, and understand that networks like to leave big gaps between airing them. So why, with all their knowledge of TV production, would they build up a child actor into a major part, knowing full well the duration of filming would likely span across years, and that those years would have an obvious effect on that child actor? It was irresponsible at best, shortsighted at worse. I don;t believe they "accidentally" didn't take into account that the child would age, that would be enormously stupid and not something that could be attributed to the type of people that are creating this show. They're not stupid, if anything they've had a very clear idea of where they're going the entire time.
Which leaves the only other option, that they never intended to resolve Walt's story. They've already backtracked on Annie and The Volcano, why wouldn't they back track on this?
Thus, they're not going to tie up some important pinnacles of the plot.
I'm not saying it's a bad show. I'm merely saying that they've purposefully created important plot elements with the sole intention of keeping people watching and filling up network air time, with no intention of following them up. They're not just little bits here and there that could be attributed to "back story" like Adam and Eve, or why Desmond is "immune" to the rules of time travel (in Faradays words) or things like that. Walt was a major plot subject throughout the whole of Series 2, not some half-arsed character with issues mentioned on the back of some other unexplained mystery.
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Ummmm, Richard didn't kill Jacob, and we don't even know that Ben is a candidate. MiB says 'I need all the candidates alive to get off the Island'.
Just rewatched the last episode, something I missed the first time around, when Locke and Sun come out of the ambulances the Paramedic is saying "we have a gun shot wound", I think that this shows the two timelines are going to meet and Sun dies on the Island as a result of MiB aka Flocke killing her, we see that in times of death or in times of happiness the people in the alt universe can relate to on the Island. This would show how Sun knew it was Locke.
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Im not sure Im watching the same program as you, Richard was sent to kill Jacob, when he was first shipwrecked on the island, also I dont get what you are saying about the fact a paramedic says 'we have a gunshot wound' shows! the timelines will meet and sun dies? she recognised locke because its been shown that when characters in the alt timeline have a near death experience they recall memories of the first timeline, she got shot, lost her baby and nearly died, hence the recognition, where do you get her death from?
they only see what has already happened, not the future, she knows what he is on the island, hence her reaction towards seeing him in the alt timeline, she is the first person with a flashback to see him out of all who have come across him in the alternate, jack and linus havent had the memory flashbacks yet, i dont believe this scene points to anything obvious really, it never showed what her flashback was, but it could only be one of her island memories, nothing major has transpired between them other than her sensing what he is now
They only see what has already happened? Is there any evidence for this? I mean, flashes of things that happened at least 90+ days into the crash ("Not penny's boat") have happened despite the sideways timeline only being maybe a few weeks past the flight landing at the most as far as I'm aware.
Not true.
I thought you meant in 2007. As for your second part, that's exactly what I said? I was saying the gun shot wound part becuase it was a near death experience. Also, she hasn't lost her baby, it's alive. Death part will be explained.
whats not true, and i can see you were saying some of the same thing, i was referring to you saying it shows she will die on the island i dont get how you see this, i havent noticed anyone having a flashback from happiness yet, who had that?
how do you know she hasnt lost her baby and can you explain the death?
edit, do you mean the connection between hurley and libby? is that what you mean by happiness? just remembered that bit
how do you know she hasnt lost her baby and can you explain the death?
edit, do you mean the connection between hurley and libby? is that what you mean by happiness? just remembered that bit
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Yes i mean Hurley and Libby and if you re-watch the latest episode she asks Jin is the baby is ok and he says 'Yes everything is fine'. And for thread reasons no i can't.
