LTT called out

[b0rn2sk8]

Jumping back into the drama now having watched the video.

As far as YouTube apology videos goes this was one of the better ones. As much as people were critical for it not being very serious, having watched it, it was actually pretty corporate for a youtube company. It shows there is a lot of moving parts to the organisation and it’s not a well oiled machine and a lot of people are making mistakes. It sets some goals as to what to do next. Time will tell…

At best, it's another oversight by Linus (failing to catch the fact that Billet wasn't on the list of people the email was sent to), not GN.

GN got it right.

Look at the screen shot. Linus wasn’t copied into the email either. How is he meant to catch something he is not copied into.

I’m not defending Linus, but the amount of rabble rousing, pitchforks and a general desire to cancel any one and everyone is getting a bit much. I see I’m not the first person to call this particular nonsense out…

Linus said they had "already" squared up with Billet. That was inacurate with respect the "context" he mentioned Steve should have called ahead of time...even though Linus' email (that actually went to Billet) happened AFTER the GN video went live.

I trust Billet more than Linus at this point, yes. Linus' misleading "already" statement in his appology statement warrants distrust. I have not seen such misleading behavior from Billet or GN (yet) in this matter.

‘Already’ could be just as easily be interpreted as being before he posted the message. All it means is that it happened prior as of the time of posting which is not untrue.

It doesn’t necessarily mean prior to GN posting their video.

Again, not defending Linus, they really messed up there and it’s not acceptable or defendable. I also accept that it can interpreted in other ways including your conclusion. But to only accept that conclusion and not consider there might be another explanation or the other side of the story is closed minded.

 

[Smeghead]

The video went private momentarily about 20 minutes ago. The price of the block has been blurred out now, not sure what other minor edits were made. The jokes remain...

 

[Craterloads]

While LTT royally messed up with billet labs the narrative Steve / Billet or the community painted of this priceless prototype being sold off put the entire company into jeopardy doesn’t hold water they were happy for LTT to keep it before the “review” came out. Odd for something so priceless, where all future work, for a considerable while, at the company would stop as they don’t have their one and only prototype.

Anyhow good response from LTT.

 

[thebandit]

This should have just been, GN video pointing out errors, Linus video admitting errors were made, they are growing the company to fast and unreservedly apologising for any misleading info released with a commitment to slow down and get things right, followed by a second GN video saying great, it seems LMG are taking action over concerns raised. Instead, I feel like both have come across really quite badly, Linus starts with basically a rant and deflecting criticism and takes nothing said on board, then GN come out with what appears to me to be an attempt to stick the knife in, it looks vindictive, they should have been more humble and just taken the line " we tried", lastly the recent Linus apology video, my god, for once just stop trying to sell us a freaking screwdriver, it undermines everything everyone says.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

Priceless at $2000

Hardly a DaVinci painting is it.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

So how many subs has linus lost since this happened?

 

[Smeghead]

Priceless at $2000

Hardly a DaVinci painting is it.

There's also the time and money spent R&Ding, plus the irreparable damage Linus has done to their company by flat out telling people "it doesn't work. Do not to buy it" because of his utterly stupid and plain wrong testing methods.

 

[pacegod]

So how many subs has linus lost since this happened?

Floatplane has lost over 4k

 

[Firestar_3x]

So how many subs has linus lost since this happened?

Over 100k on his main YouTube Channel.

 

[Junglist]

Which if you assumed all 4000 were on the cheapest, no longer available, plan it's a minimum of a 12k monthly loss. Ouch.

 

[sidimmu]

Which if you assumed all 4000 were on the cheapest, no longer available, plan it's a minimum of a 12k monthly loss. Ouch.

3 employees potentially losing their jobs there, although I am sure there is some bloat in that place.

 

[Minusorange]

Over 100k on his main YouTube Channel.

That's like 5% of his viewers per video, barely an inconvenience

 

[Twinz]

‘Already’ could be just as easily be interpreted as being before he posted the message. All it means is that it happened prior as of the time of posting which is not untrue.

It doesn’t necessarily mean prior to GN posting their video.

Again, not defending Linus, they really messed up there and it’s not acceptable or defendable. I also accept that it can interpreted in other ways including your conclusion.

Please read what Linus wrote:

"To Steve, I expressed my disappointment that he didn't go through proper journalistic practices in creating this piece. He has my email and number (along with numerous other members of our team) and could have asked me for context that may have proven to be valuable (like the fact that we didn't 'sell' the monoblock, but rather auctioned it for charity due to a miscommunication... AND the fact that while we haven't sent payment yet, we have already agreed to compensate Billet Labs for the cost of
their prototype)."

He references two "facts" that "may have proven valuable" for "context" if GN had contacted them whilst creating the peice.

The only way his "already agreed to compensate Billet" statement could have any value while creating the peice, is if compensation was agreed to before the video was posted.

How would the second "fact" Linus lists have any contextual value otherwise?

There could be no "valuable" "context" for the creation of the video unless said "fact" happened before the video went live.

The intented interpretation doesn't seem very mysterious here. These two sentences were placed together, in this order, to communicate that if GN had only contacted Linus before publishing the video, GN would have learned that Linus had "already" agreed to make things right with Billet.

 

[Twinz]

(Snip) they were happy for LTT to keep it before the “review” came out. (Snip)

Not that I think it changes much with the handling after they agreed to return it, but this is now the second time I have seen this statement.

Where does it come from?

 

[adidan]

Linus should go into politics, he's perfectly suited for it.

 

[Craterloads]

Not that I think it changes much with the handling after they agreed to return it, but this is now the second time I have seen this statement.

Where does it come from?

From the email on the LTT apology video.

Yes I agree but it is importance context.

A) in framing the value of it to the company. As a lot of the narrative was it will set back the company for months losing their prototype. They said they could keep it and were hoping LTT would use it in a future build. But after the review they wanted it back.

B) a possible contributing reason why the mix up happened with mixed messages. You can keep it, no we want it back etc

 

[Twinz]

From the email on the LTT apology video.

Yes I agree but it is importance context.

A) in framing the value of it to the company. As a lot of the narrative was it will set back the company for months losing their prototype. They said they could keep it and were hoping LTT would use it in a future build. But after the review they wanted it back.

B) a possible contributing reason why the mix up happened with mixed messages. You can keep it, no we want it back etc

I will rewatch when I am at my PC with a larger screen.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

I suspect the next prototype from billet labs will go to gamers nexus for review.

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

I suspect the next prototype from billet labs will go to gamers nexus for review.

think that goes without saying

 

[Craterloads]

I will rewatch when I am at my PC with a larger screen.