Man city escape ban! Or did they? [Update 6/2/23]

Raymond Lin · 6 Feb 2023 at 15:39

-30pts next season.
-27pts the season after that.
-24pts the season after that one.
-21pts...etc

Do this for 10 seasons...that's fair i think? Considering the breaches are like a decade long. If it's longer then we start higher, -36pts to start off, or -45pts...

Ayahuasca · 6 Feb 2023 at 15:57

Reading bluemoon forum (I know) is a bit of an eyebrow raiser mind.

They seem to genuinely consider themselves as some sort of new kid on the block disruptor, sticking it to the big boys and fighting for the “normal” clubs. It's all some sort of conspiracy against poor little City :cry:

C Kent · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:06

Ayahuasca said:
Reading bluemoon forum (I know) is a bit of an eyebrow raiser mind.

They seem to genuinely consider themselves as some sort of new kid on the block disruptor, sticking it to the big boys and fighting for the “normal” clubs. It's all some sort of conspiracy against poor little City

I'm half tempted to check bluemoon out just to see what that ******* Prestwich Blue is chatting about, then I remember just how much of a cesspool it is

omnomnom · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:07

robfosters said:
That’s when they stopped cooperating, so god knows what they’re hiding there

Did they honestly think they'd get away with it? Mind boggling.

omnomnom · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:07

C Kent said:
I'm half tempted to check bluemoon out just to see what that ******* Prestwich Blue is chatting about, then I remember just how much of a cesspool it is

Its the worst fan forum by a long way.

Mark1989 · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:12

Man City statement saying there surprised is kinda funny I mean must have only been them that were surprised

Doobedoo · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:16

sigma said:
Suitcases and knives sold out, or is that only in Newcastle?

It’s not knives it’s wives.

Doobedoo · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:18

Ayahuasca said:
Reading bluemoon forum (I know) is a bit of an eyebrow raiser mind.

They seem to genuinely consider themselves as some sort of new kid on the block disruptor, sticking it to the big boys and fighting for the “normal” clubs. It's all some sort of conspiracy against poor little City

Blame it on United all those titles in the 90’s, 20’s made them do it.

fez · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:19

omnomnom said:
Did they honestly think they'd get away with it? Mind boggling.

Risk vs reward. Same as every business. Who cares what the punishment is if it it was worth it. Would they have been able to compete as quickly, win as many trophies or get their project to where it is now without cheating? What was their punishment reacently? A fine. A fine for a club with bottomless wealth. A fine because City didn't co-operate and certain things had timed out.

If even City get a 30-40 point deduction, a transfer ban and a fine they will simply strike a deal to reduce the things that really matter ie transfer ban and potentially points reduction and that will be that. City will have the best lawyers making the PLs life hell. They will almost certainly strike a deal.

Droolinggimp · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:31

Ayahuasca said:
So you think what happened at Derby had nothing to do with the owners?

It wasn't just a different scale, it was completely different circumstances. The only point I'm arguing is stating that it's "Not really anything to do with who owns them".

I think you miss understood. I was on about it nothing to do with who owns them ei. You mentioned state owned. Any owner could do this.

PikeyPriest · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:32

fez said:
Risk vs reward. Same as every business. Who cares what the punishment is if it it was worth it. Would they have been able to compete as quickly, win as many trophies or get their project to where it is now without cheating? What was their punishment reacently? A fine. A fine for a club with bottomless wealth. A fine because City didn't co-operate and certain things had timed out.

If even City get a 30-40 point deduction, a transfer ban and a fine they will simply strike a deal to reduce the things that really matter ie transfer ban and potentially points reduction and that will be that. City will have the best lawyers making the PLs life hell. They will almost certainly strike a deal.

Depends though. A 50 million for three years fine would blow a hole for future FFP calculations. You can’t amortise a fine, so it could have a big impact along with strict regulation of their sponsorship deals (matched to sales figures, support and success on pitch). Ie no shirt deal worth 50% more than the highest ever when there is no way to justify it apart from corruption.

scarps · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:33

omnomnom said:
Its the worst fan forum by a long way.

All six members can't be that bad?

Ayahuasca · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:34

Droolinggimp said:
I think you miss understood. I was on about it nothing to do with who owns them ei. You mentioned state owned. Any owner could do this.

I'm not really sure what point it is you were making then. That's like saying, anyone could commit murder.

Do you honestly believe the chances of this happening are exactly the same regardless of the type of ownership a football club has?

The only other club with 100+ breaches as far as I'm aware were Chelsea with UEFA and oh look, it was another oil money loon with extremely sketchy connections.

robfosters · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:36

fez said:
Risk vs reward. Same as every business. Who cares what the punishment is if it it was worth it. Would they have been able to compete as quickly, win as many trophies or get their project to where it is now without cheating? What was their punishment reacently? A fine. A fine for a club with bottomless wealth. A fine because City didn't co-operate and certain things had timed out.

If even City get a 30-40 point deduction, a transfer ban and a fine they will simply strike a deal to reduce the things that really matter ie transfer ban and potentially points reduction and that will be that. City will have the best lawyers making the PLs life hell. They will almost certainly strike a deal.

Why is everyone so convinced that City’s lawyers are so much better than the premier league’s? I’m sure the premier league can afford elite lawyers themselves

robfosters · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:43

The funniest one on Blue moon was the fan who thinks it will be sorted by the UAE government contacting the PM and warning it will threaten diplomatic relations and inward investment if any prosecution goes ahead. Talk about above your station.

The_One · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:43

Pep going to honor his words?

“If you lie to me i am gone”

fez · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:44

robfosters said:
Why is everyone so convinced that City’s lawyers are so much better than the premier league’s? I’m sure the premier league can afford elite lawyers themselves

I doubt they will be better but if City can make their life miserable, drag this out, pick some holes in parts of some of the claims then the PL might think it better to strike a deal. Who knows. My fear is that after the last time City were punished we will get a repeat of that. The PL are also in the process of releasing their new White Paper on the league and this could delay it, make it harder to implement for various reasons.

I just have very little faith in any justice being served where the wealthy are involved.

Converge · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:50

scarps said:
All six members can't be that bad?

You beat me to it! And were generous by tripling it.

adam cool dude · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:52

The only negative if City gets stripped of their titles is it means Steven Gerrard gets a Premier League winners medal. We cannot have that happen.

scarps · 6 Feb 2023 at 16:54

adam cool dude said:
The only negative if City gets stripped of their titles is it means Steven Gerrard gets a Premier League winners medal. We cannot have that happen.

What will all the other clubs sign about though? Would mean they might have to think about making up a song about their own team.