So you're saying your guaranteeing child an eternity of bliss beyond comprehension in both it's length and euphoria is bad parenting?
Why is 75 years of suffering more important than that?
Sounds like you aren't too sure you get this happy ending
May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’
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So you're saying your guaranteeing child an eternity of bliss beyond comprehension in both it's length and euphoria is bad parenting?
Why is 75 years of suffering more important than that?
Sounds like you aren't too sure you get this happy ending
I would not be at all religious if I thought that this was true.
We are currently in a "hands-off" period where the things that happen around us are entirely dictated by us (excluding certain natural events which are beyond our control, but equally are not acts of God either; earthquakes fall into this category).
If a baby dies today it's not because God decided it would happen - how unjust that would be! It's because we've failed to eradicate the causes of infant death. And currently, since we're left to our own devices, we're kind of fumbling around in the dark on our own.
Why is 75 years of suffering more important than that?
Sounds like you aren't too sure you get this happy ending
no i meant what kind of parent would kill there own child. only god is allowed to take away life not mankind
presumably the ones who believe their child will be awarded an infinite life span if they die before 12.
So what about all them wars Muhammed fought?
or where they tag wars where no one was really horribly murdered?
So you're saying you believe in a god who has repeatedly made bets with the devil?
Bets that inevitably cause harm and suffering to humans?
So much for all that resisting temptation malarkey then eh.
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Alternatively if it is a tool to condition people to a certain mindset so they can transition to 'heaven', rather than a test the above is not valid
If you break down the mainstream religions enough they are simply a collection of practices to better yourself, with examples/proverbs to explain a point.
Personally i would rather be a neighbor to a religious person than a atheist because from personal experience they tend to be far more pleasant people, so as far as i am concerned they must be doing something right
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Alternatively if it is a tool to condition people to a certain mindset so they can get to 'heaven', rather than a test the above is not valid
then that's down to faulty manufacturing then.
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And what makes you think we should be faultless?
why is this still going on?
It should be pretty obvious by now that all religions are in some part untrue as there is no evidence to support an afterlife, the existence of god, or that anyone claiming to have heard from god is not delusional/high/lieing/insane.
Quotes from a fictional book mean nothing, neither do quotes from other human beings based on the identity of the person speaking.
Truth is truth no matter where it is found. Stating "muhhamed himself said..." is pointless, and gives away the true fanatical nature of the quotee.. as they clearly do not care about actual truth, only the man behind the words.
Every single religion in this list, is untrue (not wholly true)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions_and_spiritual_traditions
Islam is on there.
What i also find funny is that there is a section at the end called "fiction religions" though i understand why, as the religions in that section are not actually followed/belived but its still funny as ALL religions are fictional.
muhammed was just another human being. who is now dead. he ate food, went to the toilet, probably crapped his pants on occasion as a child.. maybe even as an adult. he got horney and shagged just like everyone else. Had ambitions, felt emotions, such as hatred, or insecurity etc etc.
Evidently he also was slightly insane, maybe even took drugs to get high occasionaly, belived he was talking to god (an illusion from too many herbal teas) and spouted out some crap whilst high to some scribes.. enough times that it resulted in the quran.
Yet people follow this nutjob. (and others like him)
/sigh
It should be pretty obvious by now that all religions are in some part untrue as there is no evidence to support an afterlife, the existence of god, or that anyone claiming to have heard from god is not delusional/high/lieing/insane.
Quotes from a fictional book mean nothing, neither do quotes from other human beings based on the identity of the person speaking.
Truth is truth no matter where it is found. Stating "muhhamed himself said..." is pointless, and gives away the true fanatical nature of the quotee.. as they clearly do not care about actual truth, only the man behind the words.
Every single religion in this list, is untrue (not wholly true)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions_and_spiritual_traditions
Islam is on there.
What i also find funny is that there is a section at the end called "fiction religions" though i understand why, as the religions in that section are not actually followed/belived but its still funny as ALL religions are fictional.
muhammed was just another human being. who is now dead. he ate food, went to the toilet, probably crapped his pants on occasion as a child.. maybe even as an adult. he got horney and shagged just like everyone else. Had ambitions, felt emotions, such as hatred, or insecurity etc etc.
Evidently he also was slightly insane, maybe even took drugs to get high occasionaly, belived he was talking to god (an illusion from too many herbal teas) and spouted out some crap whilst high to some scribes.. enough times that it resulted in the quran.
Yet people follow this nutjob. (and others like him)
/sigh
Hasnt repeatedly made bets so to speak..made a bet with the Devil which consisted of the devil saying he will lead gods creations ie humans on a pth of sinning whereas God said do your worst and we will see who prevails/wins.
Thats how islam sees it...ive obviously dumbed it down a bit but thats the jist of it.
When one person suffers from a delusion, it's called insanity, when many people suffer from the same delusion, it's called religion.
lol. How stupid.
You belive that everything you think of doing wrong is the devils fault and everything you think of doing right is gods fault?
You belive you have no thoughts of your own then??
So you are now saying that you are infact an empty lifeless shell that is being argued over by two imaginary children..
/sarcasm
yes lets all follow islam, what a fantastic view of human life.
/sarcasm
and that people is the main reason why religion is bad for humanity as a whole. It devalues human life, and its potential.
We do good deeds to not be punishished AND for reward in the afterlife,the intention to do good is always good,if you help a person just to help them ok you can do that,but if you believe in allah and are a convert to islam this will count as a good deed to your belief on the day of judgement.
But you must always try to do for sake of Allah what you might not do otherwise.
There are many laws that islam says how you should treat people so it's not so black and white to say i did a good deed now compare it to this other person who is not religious.For example it says in Qur'an that a good word if better than anything you give to someone and that if you did a good thing for another but at some point later you talk bad about him/her or gossip about them,or even make a joke about them then the original good thing you did for that person is gone.Just one example of many different things a muslim needs to do that a otherwise non religious person who might have good intentions for a person might not grasp.
Alikum wasalam,i hope my fellow brothers can guide the people on this website inshallah.
Oh dear :/
I havent said anything of the above but if it supports your little rant then carry on lol.
Well unlike secular laws which are now starting to talk about killing the disabled and impared laws of islam are eternal and never change.
And no muslim can say killing someone to save someone is allowed,so you can't say what if you do this when you can't do it period in the religion,your just trying to force an argument...
Ok as a muslim we have to believe that Allah controlls and wills everything to happen aroudn us,he knows everything that will happan and what happened before,everything,every time.It's a fundamental belief of islam.
No, you are just trying to avoid one. I wonder why.
Mohammed (peace be upon him) was only allowed to fight when allah ordained it nesscary at the particular time in saudia,anything the prophets did was by will of Allah,they are the meduim of Allah to the people.
made a bet about job too.
but basically god has said "Sure, inflict unimaginable suffering on untold billions.
Why the hell not eh? It's not I give a **** about them!
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