May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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No but look at the other side of things.
WHO said the people Muhammed/Mohammed killed deserved to die?
If it was god what gave 'it' the right to order these murders? and again the people he murdered would they not have been doing what their 'god' told them to do?
We have 2 sides of people killing each other over what god said.
Is it me or did god just contradict itself with the killings?

Or..............did these people use god as an excuse to get the power they wanted and to live how they pleased?
I think so.

So you mean it's was ok for Pharoph to force the people to worship him,die for him ect but it's not ok for people to worship and die for something that is unseen?

You would not have the country you live in now with "freedom of speech" if none of the prophets come to stop the old bad habits of nations and kings.You would be force to be a slave to some person and worship him whenever he wanted.
 
Source on this?

Or are you talking about assisted suicide and trying to misrepresent it as an extreme form of eugenics?





Yeah they don't kill the sick, but they will have you stoned to death or being a bit easy.


But only if you're a woman.

I just wanted to make the point secular laws are always changing and in the next 10 years they can easily contradict any laws now if it wants.
 
You would not have the country you live in now with "freedom of speech" if none of the prophets come to stop the old bad habits of nations and kings.You would be force to be a slave to some person and worship him whenever he wanted.

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Get out. Seriously. We'd certainly not have freedom of speech if we were living under Sharia law.

Stop attributing the good deeds of men to some God. The people in this country, and every other democracy where freedom of speech existed fought and worked for their rights.
 
So you mean it's was ok for Pharoph to force the people to worship him,die for him ect but it's not ok for people to worship and die for something that is unseen?

You would not have the country you live in now with "freedom of speech" if none of the prophets come to stop the old bad habits of nations and kings.You would be force to be a slave to some person and worship him whenever he wanted.

I didn't realise Oliver Cromwell was a prophet.
 
Why did He create cats, or dogs or anything? Why did He make the sky blue? Why did he make the trees green? :confused: Genuinely confused as to what that's got to do with anything.

I dont think that god made anything, the point of the dinosaurs is that religious ideology completely ignores or doesnt believe they were ever real.

In the 6-7 days that God created the world, nowhere are dinosaurs ever mentioned before humans, plants or animals came into the picture.
 
Evolution states that mutations or changes in genes which are beneficial to a species survival are passed on to future generations. There are organs in our body which could not have 'evolved' over time because if you remove even one part of them, they are completely useless. The eye being one such organ. It was created as an eye, for it's purpose which is to see. If as you believe, it evolved over millions of years and magically became an eye after x million years, what the hell was it before that for millions of years while it was evolving? A useless lump? Because you sure as hell couldn't use it to see with. There are just as many arguments against 'the theory of evolution' as there are for it.

Can I ask what sort of education you have? Because your knowledge of evolution is absolutely appalling when compared to even my limited knowledge. There are many, many examples of transitional organs and there are even now examples of a change of speciation. While there are indeed many arguements against the "theory of evolution" (are you even aware of the difference in meaning between theory when used in scientific terms and non scientific terms?) there are precious few, if any, scientific arguments against evolution. Mostly it is the blindly religious going "god did it, god did it, god did it!". Thankfully the majority of religous people I know have no problems with evolution.
 
Why did He create cats, or dogs or anything? Why did He make the sky blue? Why did he make the trees green? :confused: Genuinely confused as to what that's got to do with anything.

Because said nut jobs believe the earth is as old as the bible and Dinosaurs never existed. I have the misfortune of working with one (nut job not a dinosaur :p ).
 
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You belittle the being that you dont believe in, and therefore you will never believe in him. To me that makes no difference, to you it makes all the difference. You behave like a child that doesnt like the rules of a game so goes off in a sulk and decides not to play. He is the creator and he makes the rules, but you cant quit the 'game', so feel free to sulk some more.

Nice side step... Again.... Not one of my points addressed in any way at all! 0/10... Lot's of nonsense about things you have not the slightest proof for, and instead things that are just hear-say, or that you've no doubt concocted yourself to support your belief.


I'll make it as easy for you as I can... Address the question:-
- Do you think everyone, no matter when they were born, or where they were born, has the same chance in believing in God? I'd say the odds change drastically! How is that fair? (I guarantee you will not answer this question) Had I been born in a different time (eg: 300 years earlier), and different place (eg: Iran) there would probably be a greater chance of me being religious. Why am I dealt a worse hand? How is this a divine system? I go to hell due to bad luck?

- Finally, even though I'm destined to go to Hell for not believing on God. Am I actually in many ways not MORE worthy than you? I'm not bribed into my good actions... I do it through sheer good will and/or good character. Whereas you need to possibly be threatened into such actions?


Why are you suggesting I'm behaving like a child when I've rationally considered the matter, and you're the one taking other peoples stories about an invisible being for granted, when you have not one bit of proof for it? Do you believe in the tooth fairy? If there was the threat of going to hell if you didn't believe in the tooth fairy, would you believe in it too? It sort of sounds like you just might :)
 
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Ok as a muslim we have to believe that Allah controlls and wills everything to happen aroudn us,he knows everything that will happan and what happened before,everything,every time.It's a fundamental belief of islam.

Is that really what you're taught?

Because that would mean that all the fighting between muslims and non-muslims is Allahs doing too... that he wills it to happen?

Surely that can't be what you're saying?
 
I dont think that god made anything, the point of the dinosaurs is that religious ideology completely ignores or doesnt believe they were ever real.

In the 6-7 days that God created the world, nowhere are dinosaurs ever mentioned before humans, plants or animals came into the picture.

The thing is though, most species are not mentioned by name. The Quran speaks of creatures God has placed on the earth, some that walk on 2 legs, some that walk on 4 and some that crawl on their bellies. Other verses may describe creatures with wings which fly and fish in the sea. Dinosaurs could be included in this, so whether they existed or not doesn't impact upon the argument 'is there a God?'. I agree that if a religion states that the earth is only 5000 years old, there may be an issue here but I don't know any religion which states such a thing. I have heard people use this argument but never actually read holy scripture to support it.

The concept of days, referred to in the Quran (and Bible) when speaking of the creation of the heavens and the earth, does not translate to our 24 hr days since the sun itself had not been created. The Quran speaks of different dimensions of space/time which all exist alongside each other. Our own perception of time will change drastically after we die, it is said once we are raised up and questioned how long we lived on earth, man will reply 'a day or part of day'.

Can I ask what sort of education you have? Because your knowledge of evolution is absolutely appalling when compared to even my limited knowledge. There are many, many examples of transitional organs and there are even now examples of a change of speciation. While there are indeed many arguements against the "theory of evolution" (are you even aware of the difference in meaning between theory when used in scientific terms and non scientific terms?) there are precious few, if any, scientific arguments against evolution. Mostly it is the blindly religious going "god did it, god did it, god did it!". Thankfully the majority of religous people I know have no problems with evolution.

Which religion are these people who believe in the 'theory of evolution?' In that man and ape evolved from a common ancestor? They are certainly not christian, muslim or jewish. If they claim to be, they are hypocrites nothing more, so although it is pleasing to you to accept them as 'religious people' because they have gone against the very thing they claim to follow, believe me they cannot be taken seriously. They are even worse then non believers who are at least honest about their belief, instead of saying we believe in THIS then deciding well this part doesn't quite fit for us so we will conveniently leave this part out or change it.

I have already stated, I do believe that creatures evolve/adapt to their environment. However, I do not believe that man evolved from other creatures. I believe in a God, who created human beings as human beings. If you can't see that humankind is different to every other creature on this planet, is it we who are blinded or you?
 
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