May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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you are saying nothing being done here is any different to every other important figure or organization...so im asking where these threads are since you're using the word here.

Quit trolling dude. No other religion makes death threats to people over such trivial things.

It's not that hard to see. :)
 
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Criticizing a belief system is not attacking millions of people, it is criticism of their beliefs which are a completely optional thing that they dont even need to have in the first place.

people dont need to have kids but they choose to, and just because they are optional doesnt mean they wouldn't care.

mocking beliefs(which is usually something close to ones heart) isn't attacking them ? sure lets see if you can walk into a church/mosque and shout insults at their prohet and see if they agree with you.
 
Could someone please tell me how many other religions have led to acid being thrown over their womens faces for going to school?


Well, they arent even women, they are young girls.

oh geez you are a laugh....you said you are/were Hindu, then wouldn't you know that it was quite common that Hindu women are burned alive when their husbands die ?
talk about throwing stones at peoples houses when living in a glass house:p
 
It's funny how offence works really, if you're offending a minorities beliefs then it's A-OK because it's just irrational nonsense you're attacking and it's really funny whereas if I was to post a satirical cartoon involving a naked woman or a swear word then I suspect the post would be swiftly deleted and I'd be banned, because apparently such images and language are 'unsafe' or 'offensive' despite the fact that I'd wager most of the forum would find such an image perfectly safe and inoffensive, and the reasoning behind finding 'swear words' or 'nudity' offensive is just irrational as, say, drawing pictures of Mohammed.
 
It's funny how offence works really, if you're offending a minorities beliefs then it's A-OK because it's just irrational nonsense you're attacking and it's really funny whereas if I was to post a satirical cartoon involving a naked woman or a swear word then I suspect the post would be swiftly deleted and I'd be banned, because apparently such images are 'unsafe' or 'offensive' despite the fact that I'd wager most of the forum would find such an image perfectly safe and inoffensive.

Get out. :p
 
How anyone can believe in any religion confused me - As tempting as it is to believe we're in someway super special, and you gone on after death. It seems clear to me that it's just a culturally lead, self centred, delusional vanity to me... :)

it can help people make it through another day i guess. just think some poor women in the village works hard all day trying to feed her kids ...some days they eat and some days they dont......one day her daughter gets raped the next her son gets run over and becomes crippled by the rapist.

what words of comfort could you give to her ? especially in some backwards country where money rules all.

convicing her he would serve time in the depths of hell and burn for eternity and that they would make it to heaven if they stay strong and prayed would probably help her stay positive even when all is going wrong.

i do believe religion has its good uses too.....
 
it can help people make it through another day i guess. just think some poor women in the village works hard all day trying to feed her kids ...some days they eat and some days they dont......one day her daughter gets raped the next her son gets run over and becomes crippled by the rapist.

what words of comfort could you give to her ? especially in some backwards country where money rules all.

convicing her he would serve time in the depths of hell and burn for eternity and that they would make it to heaven if they stay strong and prayed would probably help her stay positive even when all is going wrong.

i do believe religion has its good uses too.....

I think lies can't help. If a loved one dies, trying to suggest a God has done it for some purpose surely can't help the matter?

If anything lies just make life and death more confused.



If you consider my post from last night...
Look at this image again (click me):-


And I explained that basically every single dot there is not a star but indeed an entire other galaxy, made up of billions of other stars.

If you consider a thousand years ago, our knowledge of the universe was very limited, and everything appeared utterly unexplainable. As such belief in God was so much easier. Today, we can explain much of the Universe and see how and why we have come into existance, without a need for a God.

As such, today, we are at a disadvantage - We have less reason to believe than an ancestors 1000 years ago.

And this goes back to me pointing out how unfair the Heaven selection system is. Born today probably means a lesser chance of believing, so a lesser chance of going to Heaven.




Another picture, this time lookling the other way:-

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That dot is the furthest picture of earth. I'll quote Carl Sagan at this point:-

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.​
To me, that suggests life is far more important and prolific than any religious document may suggest. If gives life true importance and true weight.

And let us remember, Carl Sagan has gone to hell, as he didn't believe in God. His intelect, the family and the time he was born in, meant his inquisitive nature made him investigate the workings of the universe, which inturn made him realise that a God is not required to explain its existance.

Had Carl been born one or two thousand years earlier, or to a different family, his life would no doubt have been very different and may then have stood a better chance of ending up in Heaven.

How fickle (and unfair) the system that an ultimate being has created, just for us, on this tiny spec in all the universe!
 
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oh geez you are a laugh....you said you are/were Hindu, then wouldn't you know that it was quite common that Hindu women are burned alive when their husbands die ?
talk about throwing stones at peoples houses when living in a glass house:p

Except that throwing acid on womens faces, and other forms of violence and attacks against women are supported by the taliban, and even by many of the Sharia governments, whereas Hindu women being burned alive when their husbands die is outlawed and extremely rare in current day India.

You fail, get with the times.

By the way, India has also legalised Homosexuality and is a very democratic and free place to live. Women can wear whatever they want, and go clubbing every night and even give a strip tease should they want to without any worry of any kind of religious police finding and stoning them to death for doing that.

Of course, the ever expanding rural and uneducated population is currently Indias largest problem that the goverment has not been able to control. Whereas China were able to implement harsh one child only policies, India has had to cope with free democratic laws which allow women to have as many children as they like, and are having to struggle with incredibly low amounts of financial resources to try to educate people in the the rural areas.

India and Hinduism is not limited or being oppressed by a fanatical poltical movement, their political system is actually very exemplary and modern for that part of the world, however the problem in India is its uncontrollable population growth.
 
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i bet he doesnt even know that it says in the Quran that we can and are allowed to marry people of the Book ie christians and Jews;)...in fact there no compulsion for them to actually convert although it is recommended that they

Why exactly is it reccomended that they do then? What is wrong if they remain christian or Jewish?

Muslims who are ok with marrying non muslim people are a vast tiny minority.

However, regardless of what the koran says about marrying people of other faiths, it definately does prohibit marrying 'unbelievers':

The Quran prohibits Muslim men from marrying unbelievers and associators, saying that it is better for them to marry believing women:

And do not marry the idolatresses until they believe, and certainly a believing maid is better than an idolatress woman, even though she should please you; and do not give (believing women) in marriage to idolaters until they believe, and certainly a believing servant is better than an idolater, even though he should please you; these invite to the fire, and Allah invites to the garden and to forgiveness by His will, and makes clear His communications to men, that they may be mindful. S. 2:221 Shakir

The words rendered as idolatresses and idolaters are from the Arabic term mushrik, which comes from shirk, and more literally means one who associates or ascribes partners to Allah. This is how the late Muhammad Asad translated these words:

AND DO NOT many women who ascribe divinity to aught beside God ere they attain to [true] belief: for any believing bondwoman [of God] is certainly better than a woman who ascribes divinity to aught beside God, even though she please you greatly. And do not give your women in marriage to men who ascribe divinity to aught beside God ere they attain to [true] belief: for- any believing bondman [of God] is certainly better than a man who ascribes divinity to aught beside God, even though he please you greatly. [Such as] these invite unto the fire, whereas God invites unto paradise, and unto [the achievement of] forgiveness by His leave; and He makes clear His messages unto mankind, so that they might bear them in mind. Muhammad Asad

In fact, true believers according to the Muslim scripture are only those who believe in Allah and Muhammad as his messenger:

The true believers are ONLY those, who believe in (the Oneness of) Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and when they are with him on some common matter, they go not away until they have asked his permission. Verily! Those who ask your permission, those are they who (really) believe in Allah and His Messenger. So if they ask your permission for some affairs of theirs, give permission to whom you will of them, and ask Allah for their forgiveness. Truly, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. S. 24:62 Hilali-Khan

The next text commands Muslim men not to remain married to unbelievers:

O you who believe! when believing women come to you flying, then examine them; Allah knows best their faith; then if you find them to be believing women, do not send them back to the unbelievers, neither are these (women) lawful for them, nor are those (men) lawful for them, and give them what they have spent; and no blame attaches to you in marrying them when you give them their dowries; and hold not to the ties of marriage of unbelieving women, and ask for what you have spent, and let them ask for what they have spent. That is Allah's judgment; He judges between you, and Allah is Knowing, Wise. S. 60:10 Shakir

So I were actually right, and people who say that the Koran condones muslims marrying non muslims are liars.
 
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