May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

Status
Not open for further replies.
FoxEye said:
:(

Isn't murder a bit worse than watching football, even for Muslims?
Click to expand...

i think in protest we should all watch the world cup :p

Brazil vs. North Korea - 15 Jun 8:30pm
Honduras vs. Chile - 16 Jun 1:30pm
Spain vs. Switzerland - 16 Jun 4:00pm
South Africa vs. Uruguay - 16 Jun 8:30pm
Argentina vs. South Korea - 17 Jun 1:30pm
Greece vs. Nigeria - 17 Jun 4:00pm
France vs. Mexico - 17 Jun 8:30pm
* All times are South Africa Time


stupid google should give me UK time....will i look like a fool though if we have the same time zone haha
 
Last edited:
No, i'm going to give you that in the western world, such as in the UK, honour killings outside of Muslim families are exceedingly rare.

India is going into a huge decline with its exponential population growth mostly into backward and undeveloped areas with little or no education. I would really like to see you or anyone else try to govern that place and sort things out.

If honour killings arent a religion thing, then when have you ever heard of it happen in Atheist families?

Never am I right?
 
bhavv said:
Its a culture thing that out of all the cases of honour killings, is only common among the Muslim faith and not of the other religions.
Click to expand...
'Tradition, not religion'

None of the world's major religions condone honour-related crimes.

But perpetrators have sometimes tried to justify their actions on religious grounds.

"Honour crime happens across the board in the Asian community," says Ram Gidoomal of the South Asian Development Partnership.

"People try to blame Muslims, Hindus or Sikhs but it tends to happen in families where there are the strongest ties and expectations. It's a very strong cultural issue."

Leaders of the world's faiths have also strongly denounced a connection between religion and honour killings.
Click to expand...
source

incase you missed it......yep you're a liar again.:p
 
Because your source must be 100% correct, like NOT!!!!

Lets go again with what the koran says:

Sura (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve

Sura (48:29) - Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves

Sura (9:30) - And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fights against them. How perverse are they!

Sura (8:12) - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

Sura (9:123) - O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness

Sura (5:33) - The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement
Click to expand...

I really find it easy to believe that such teachings are what can lead to some muslims being hateful of western culture, to the point that they would go and honour kill their children for doing something against their culture.
 
Last edited:
Gaidin109 said:
You have constantly said that Muslims, the Qur'an and specifically Mohammed all believe and teach that the Earth is Flat.
Click to expand...

The koran and mohammed arguably believed that the world was flat, and I have posted evidence of this.

Mohammed was NOT an educated person at the time, and wouldnt have had any knowledge of the world or astronomy as opposed to educated clever people at the time.
 
NeilFawcett said:
Undoubtably it's mainly cultural, but with any religion involved simply swaying any medieval tendancies around in one direction or the other...
Click to expand...

Honor killings are only found where strong religious culture is, be it Islam or Hinduism, and in the past maybe Christianity too.

But if it *WAS NOT* due to religion in any way at all, then that means that Atheists would also be doing it just as much as theists, which I really cant believe as being true.


Honour killings are a thing that stem from backward religious beliefs.
 
bhavv said:
Because your source must be 100% correct, like NOT!!!!

Lets go again with what the koran says:
Sura (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve

Sura (48:29) - Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves

Sura (9:30) - And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fights against them. How perverse are they!

Sura (8:12) - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

Sura (9:123) - O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness

Sura (5:33) - The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement​
​
Click to expand...

I must admit, it's not exactly bedtime story stuff is it :)

Is 9:123 some sort of gay homosexual reference?
 
bhavv said:
Its a culture thing that out of all the cases of honour killings, is only common among the Muslim faith and not of the other religions.
Click to expand...


so you are claiming its only common amongst muslims
'Tradition, not religion'

None of the world's major religions condone honour-related crimes.

But perpetrators have sometimes tried to justify their actions on religious grounds.

"Honour crime happens across the board in the Asian community," says Ram Gidoomal of the South Asian Development Partnership.

"People try to blame Muslims, Hindus or Sikhs but it tends to happen in families where there are the strongest ties and expectations. It's a very strong cultural issue."

Leaders of the world's faiths have also strongly denounced a connection between religion and honour killings.
Click to expand...
source

bhavv said:
Because your source must be 100% correct, like NOT!!!!
Click to expand...

so the BBC isn't reliable enough for you ?
nothing a quick google cant fix then

http://asianhistory.about.com/b/2010/05/28/hindu-honor-killings-as-caste-reemphasized.htm
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1209357640983&pagename=Zone-English-News%2FNWELayout
http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/77818/48482
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2004/01/13/stories/2004011305091200.htm
http://secularoutpost.infidels.org/2008/05/hindu-honor-killing.html

are all these lies then or are you the liar ?
 
Spawn said:
I read what you posted;)...all i was saying if you want to eradicate religion then best eradicate the people too;) and it has absolutely FA to do with what i support:rolleyes:
Click to expand...

well that speaks volumes about the muslim mentality doesnt it.

It's just easier to kill people than reason with them huh.

You're such a nice person.
 
Amnesia said:
so you are claiming its only common amongst muslims

are all these lies then or are you the liar ?
Click to expand...

Or maybe you still lack comprehension.

In the UK, Europe, America, and rest of the western world, honour killings are not common among non - muslims.

That is a factual claim, you are just very bad at comprehending, and very good at using strawman arguments.

As for honor killings in India, as I already said, I dont doubt that it happens among the large uneducated rural populations there. But among educated Hindus, or those living in western countries, it hardly ever happens as much as it does among Muslim families.

Im not a liar just because you read between posts and never accept any further explanation or debate. All the times that you keep on calling me a liar, no one except for you and spawn can take anything that you type seriously anyway.
 
Last edited:
bhavv said:
Its a culture thing that out of all the cases of honour killings, is only common among the Muslim faith and not of the other religions.
Click to expand...

bhavv said:
Or maybe you still lack comprehension.
Click to expand...

well obviously something is a miss i read that as saying that it is only common among the Muslim faith and not of the other religions

yet the links i provided say different.

http://asianhistory.about.com/b/2010/05/28/hindu-honor-killings-as-caste-reemphasized.htm
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1209357640983&pagename=Zone-English-News%2FNWELayout
http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/77818/48482
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2004/01/13/stories/2004011305091200.htm
http://secularoutpost.infidels.org/2008/05/hindu-honor-killing.html

so is it common amongst only muslims or not ?
care to change your mind liar ?
 
Amnesia said:
well obviously something is a miss i read that as saying that it is only common among the Muslim faith and not of the other religions

yet the links i provided say different.

http://asianhistory.about.com/b/2010/05/28/hindu-honor-killings-as-caste-reemphasized.htm
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1209357640983&pagename=Zone-English-News%2FNWELayout
http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/77818/48482
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2004/01/13/stories/2004011305091200.htm
http://secularoutpost.infidels.org/2008/05/hindu-honor-killing.html

so is it common amongst only muslims or not ?
care to change your mind liar ?
Click to expand...

Already explained to you twice, here is a third time:

bhavv said:
Or maybe you still lack comprehension.

In the UK, Europe, America, and rest of the western world, honour killings are not common among non - muslims.

That is a factual claim, you are just very bad at comprehending, and very good at using strawman arguments.

As for honor killings in India, as I already said, I dont doubt that it happens among the large uneducated rural populations there. But among educated Hindus, or those living in western countries, it hardly ever happens as much as it does among Muslim families.

Im not a liar just because you read between posts and never accept any further explanation or debate. All the times that you keep on calling me a liar, no one except for you and spawn can take anything that you type seriously anyway.
Click to expand...

The particular case that I posted happened in Canada, not in India. The caste system / rural backwardness in India is a huge problem, and I also believe that to be due to Hinduism and religion as well.

Find me cases of Indian / Hindu honour killings in the western world.
 
Last edited:
Rapping on about honor killings again I see, how's business going bhav?

Honor killings have nothing to do with Islam (or any religion I've ever encountered/read about) but has everything to do with people who skew their own understanding and lack general common sense and intelligence or tolerance for differences among their own family. It's most commonly done in the name of family honor...mostly.

I suggest you read this:
http://muslimvoices.org/honor-killings/



No doubt you'll return with 7 paragraphs about some other nonsense as usual,
/thread.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom