May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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Everything you just mentioned goes completely against the true meaning of islam....whether or not you take my word for it is your choice of course.

Erm, no it doesnt, you know nothing about Islam or Sharia Law.

Go and read your Koran, you obviously did it wrong the first time.

A woman is worth HALF that of a man, is not allowed to drive, must be covered up at all times (according to many Islamic scholars and hadiths), and is given half of the amount of compensation or 'eye for an eye' treatment in courts (If a man burns both of a womans eyes off with Acid, the man then only gets one of his eyes burned off as men are seen as twice as valuable).

Anyone that commits adultery outside of marriage get stoned to death, except in countries where western influence and pressure has reduced this to 100 lashes and 6 months in prison.

Atheism or homosexuality = Stoned to death (as written in the koran and agreed upon by just about every Islamic Scholar).

Preaching about any religion other than Islam = Stoned to death or lashes + prison (depending on which Sharia country).

You know like 1% of what JihadWatch does about Islam, that is absolutely nothing, and you parade around here thinking you know everything about it.

The true meaning of Islam is Submission, Obedience, and Peace, meaning that Muslims will only be peaceful when when everyone else has submitted to their religion (most believe out of fear), are completely obedient towards Islam, never say a bad thing about it and once everysingle human is living under and governed by extremist Sharia Law.
 
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No don't be silly.

Oh, so I can't have an opinion that differs or I'm being silly?

Would you get more upset at me burning a a piccy of Mo the Paedo or Jordan if you come from Jordan. I think I know the answer.

Well, I'm neither Muslim or from Jordan so I couldn't care less either way.

Let's make it a bit more applicable to me shall we? Instead of Muhammed and Jordan, how about Darwin and England; the answer is the same. It's not hurting me, why should I care?

The attack on your sovereignty would be your first concern I'm sure. But you can't speak from experience because we aren't that vulgar in the West.

It isn't an attack on my sovereignty, it's an attack on a piece of paper. Not exactly green, but harmless all the same :p
 
Yep, you are right about the Torah, but you must remember that this is a book from the Bronze Age.
Stop trying to compare apples and pears! The Q'uran is from a more enlightened and civilised time and yet it still manages to transgress most of the civilised taboos. We already had the moral boundaries set when Islam decided to rewrite them and bring no morality back to life.

+1 for the Jews TBH.

LOL oh dear someones a bit angry arent they??

Still waiting kylew.
Would you burn our flag?

Anyone else offended by kylew saying there's nothing wrong with burning our country's flag? Or is it just me...

No just you and calm down FFS...you have a very aggressive posting style. And have you ever considered that kylew might be in bed or busy??...i mean not everyone spends their whole days/nights sitting on here...do you??
 
The Koran's got some damn impressive prophetic verses if it said that one! :eek:

Women arent allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia under their interperation of the Sharia Law (And this is the holiest Islamic country out of the lot).

Saying that Women have equal rights in Islam is an absolute **** take out of how women are treated in just about every Sharia country that lives under Islamic law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

If women have equal rights, then go right ahead and ban veiling them, and allow them to do EVERYTHING equally to men to prove it, without those women having to fear having acid thrown over their faces in retaliation.
 
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Women can't drive there not because of Islamic law but because of man made law...

Probably a good thing, women can't drive :p*

























*Joke!
 
Women arent allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia under their interperation of the Sharia Law (And this is the holiest Islamic country out of the lot).

But it's not in the koran so it's just man made (assuming of course the koran is the word of god.


If women have equal rights, then go right ahead and ban veiling them to prove it.

You're saying forbidding women from wearing something would give them more rights? :confused:
 
LOL oh dear someones a bit angry arent they??



No just you and calm down FFS...you have a very aggressive posting style. And have you ever considered that kylew might be in bed or busy??...i mean not everyone spends their whole days/nights sitting on here...do you??

Seriously, there is not one thing that the guy you quoted said that was aggressive, I find it no wonder that you find cartoons offensive.

You're saying forbidding women from wearing something would give them more rights? :confused:

As opposed to forcing them to wear it, of course it would. The only reason the face veil is worn is because the women who wear it were raised in a strict and oppressive culture. 20 years ago Muslim women didnt wear the veil - it was an idea that was created by the Taliban regime forcing women to wear it otherwise they would have been seriously harmed, which then spread into and incorporated itself into Islamic culture in most Sharia states.
 
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Seriously, there is not one thing that the guy you quoted said that was aggressive, I find it no wonder that you find cartoons offensive.

Roffles....i just find you extremely offensive and extremely ignorant along with your buddy Tip Top;):p.
 
You may have had choice like I did but I can guarantee you that in the 70s you had to attend assembly and RE was compulsory.

You miss my point - I attended Mass (Though I guess I could have said no) and had RE lessons but.. if i didnt want to be a Catholic (Which I didn't, and I am not) then nobody was particularly bothered..
 
Roffles....i just find you extremely offensive and extremely ignorant along with your buddy Tip Top;):p.

Talk about yourself please, at least about the blatantly obvious ignorance.

I find Islam extremely offensive, which it just is. I dont need any reasons just like you dont for silly and childless accusations.
 
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As opposed to forcing them to wear it, of course it would. The only reason the face veil is worn is because the women who wear it were raised in a strict and oppressive culture. 20 years ago Muslim women didnt wear the veil - it was an idea that was created by the Taliban regime forcing women to wear it otherwise they would have been seriously harmed, which then spread into and incorporated itself into Islamic culture in most Sharia states.

So how do you explain all the muslim women in the UK who wear the veil and drive (which you say is not allowed) ?
 
As opposed to forcing them to wear it, of course it would.

Tefal is right. It's the exact same thing, just dressed up differently (don't excuse the pun, that was awesome).

Forcing someone to wear something is the same as saying they can't, either way it removes their choice.
 
Erm, no it doesnt, you know nothing about Islam or Sharia Law.

Go and read your Koran, you obviously did it wrong the first time.

A woman is worth HALF that of a man, is not allowed to drive, must be covered up at all times (according to many Islamic scholars and hadiths), and is given half of the amount of compensation or 'eye for an eye' treatment in courts (If a man burns both of a womans eyes off with Acid, the man then only gets one of his eyes burned off as men are seen as twice as valuable).

Oh dear oh dear....well coming from you thats a bit rich isnt it??..

So please point out to me where it says these specific things in the Quran...i mean you seem to know more about my religion than i do...but please go ahead and educate oh great one...
 
Talk about yourself please, at least about the blatantly obvious ignorance.

I find Islam extremely offensive, which it just is. I dont need any reasons just like you dont for silly and childless accusations.

Well i only see it as i read it lol...i mean if the shoe fits and all that....you have proved time and time again that you know FA about what your talking about and now your resorting to making up stuff to get your point across lol.

Quite pathetic really.
 
So how do you explain all the muslim women in the UK who wear the veil (which you say is a must) and drive (which you say is not allowed) ?

Because the UK isnt a Sharia country, and because Muslim daddy still wants his wife and daughters to wear the veil.
 
Here you go bhavvy boy...womens rights within islam, taken straight from the Quran;)

Spiritual Equality of Women and Men
Allah has got ready forgiveness and tremendous rewards for the Muslim men and women; the believing men and women; the devout men and women; the truthful men and women; the patiently suffering men and women; the humble men and women; the almsgiving men and women; the fasting men and women, the men and women who guard their chastity; and the men and women who are exceedingly mindful of Allah. (Al-Ahzab 33:35)

Attitudes towards women
O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good. (An-Nisa 4:19)

Collaboration and consultation
The believing men and women, are associates and helpers of each other. They (collaborate) to promote all that is beneficial and discourage all that is evil; to establish prayers and give alms, and to obey Allah and his Messenger. Those are the people whom Allah would grant mercy. Indeed Allah is Mighty and Wise. (Al-Taubah 9:71)

Examples of Consensual Decision Making
If both spouses decide, by mutual consent and consultation, on weaning [their baby], there is no blame on either. If you want to have your babies breastfed by a foster mother you are not doing anything blame-worthy provided you pay to the fostermother what you had agreed to offer, in accordance with the established manner. Fear Allah and know that Allah is aware it what you are doing". (Al-Baqarah, 2:233)

Women's Right to Attend Mosques
Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet (p.b.u.h) said, "Allow women to go to the Mosques at night." (Bukhari Volume 2, Book 13, Number 22)

Narrated Ibn Umar: One of the wives of Umar (bin Al-Khattab) used to offer the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayer in congregation in the Mosque. She was asked why she had come out for the prayer as she knew that Umar disliked it, and he has great ghaira (self-respect). She replied, "What prevents him from stopping me from this act?" The other replied, "The statement of Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) : 'Do not stop Allah's women-slave from going to Allah s Mosques' prevents him." (Bukhari Volume 2, Book 13, Number 23)

Ibn 'Umar reported: Grant permission to women for going to the mosque in the night. His son who was called Waqid said: Then they would make mischief. He (the narrator) said: He thumped his (son's) chest and said: I am narrating to you the hadith of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), and you say: No! (Sahih Muslim Book 004, Number 0890)

Ibn Umar reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Do not deprive women of their share of the mosques, when they seek permission from you. Bilal said: By Allah, we would certainly prevent them. 'Abdullah said: I say that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said it and you say: We would certainly prevent them! (Sahih Muslim Book 004, Number 0891)

Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said that Atika bint Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl, the wife of Umar ibn al-Khattab, used to ask Umar ibn al-Khattab for permission to go to the mosque. He would keep silent, so she would say, "By Allah, I will go out, unless you forbid me," and he would not forbid her. (Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 14.5.14)

The Common Performance of Ablutions
Narrated Ibn Umar: "It used to be that men and women would perform ablutions together in the time of the Messenger of Allah's assembly." (Bukhari: 1: Ch. 45, Book of Ablution)

Women's Right of Proposal
Narrated Sahl: A woman came to the Prophet, and presented herself to him (for marriage). He said, "I am not in need of women these days." Then a man said, "O Allah's Apostle! Marry her to me." The Prophet asked him, "What have you got?" He said, "I have got nothing." The Prophet said, "Give her something, even an iron ring." He said, "I have got nothing." The Prophet asked (him), "How much of the Quran do you know (by heart)?" He said, "So much and so much." The Prophet said, "I have married her to you for what you know of the Quran." (Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 72)

Women's Right of Permission
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)." (Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67)

Narrated Khansa bint Khidam Al-Ansariya that her father gave her in marriage when she was a matron and she disliked that marriage. So she went to Allah's Apostle and he declared that marriage invalid. (Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 69)

The Right of Women not to be Forced
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Barira's husband was a slave called Mughith, as if I am seeing him now, going behind Barira and weeping with his tears flowing down his beard. The Prophet said to 'Abbas, "O 'Abbas ! are you not astonished at the love of Mughith for Barira and the hatred of Barira for Mughith?" The Prophet then said to Barira, "Why don't you return to him?" She said, "O Allah's Apostle! Do you order me to do so?" He said, "No, I only intercede for him." She said, "I am not in need of him." (Bukhari: Volume 7, Book 63, Number 206)

Asserting Women's Rights
Ibn Al-Jauzi narrated the virtues and merits of Umar bin Al-Khattab (Allah bless him) in the following words: Umar forbade the people from paying excessive dowries and addressed them saying: "Don't fix the dowries for women over forty ounces. If ever that is exceeded I shall deposit the excess amount in the public treasury". As he descended from the pulpit, a flat-nosed lady stood up from among the women audience, and said: "It is not within your right". Umar asked: "Why should this not be of my right?" she replied: "Because Allah has proclaimed: 'even if you had given one of them (wives) a whole treasure for dowry take not the least bit back. Would you take it by false claim and a manifest sin'". (Al Nisa, 20). When he heard this, Umar said: "The woman is right and the man (Umar) is wrong. It seems that all people have deeper insight and wisdom than Umar". Then he returned to the pulpit and declared: "O people, I had restricted the giving of more than four hundred dirhams in dowry. Whosoever of you wishes to give in dowry as much as he likes and finds satisfaction in so doing may do so". quoted in: "On the Position and Role of Women in Islam and Islamic Society"

Seeking advice and comfort
Narrated 'Aisha (the mother of the faithful believers): ... Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, "I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving calamity-afflicted ones." Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza ... (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3)

The Characteristics of a Believing Man
Narrated AbuHurayrah: Allah's Messenger (pbuh) said: a believing man should not hate a believing woman; if he dislikes one of her characteristics, he will be pleased with another. (Muslim Book 8, Number 3469)

The Education of Women
Narrated Abu Said: A woman came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Men (only) benefit by your teachings, so please devote to us from (some of) your time, a day on which we may come to you so that you may teach us of what Allah has taught you." Allah's Apostle said, "Gather on such-and-such a day at such-and-such a place." They gathered and Allah's Apostle came to them and taught them of what Allah had taught him. (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 92, Number 413)

On the Treatment of Women
Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: I went to the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) and asked him: "What do you say (command) about our wives?" He replied: "Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them." (Sunan Abu Dawud: Book 11, Number 2139) "The best of you is one who is best towards his family and I am best towards the family". (At-Tirmithy). "None but a noble man treats women in an honourable manner. And none but an ignoble treats women disgracefully". (At-Tirmithy).

A Husband must keep the Privacy of his Wife
Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: Allah's Messenger (peace_be_upon_him) said: The most wicked among the people in the eye of Allah on the Day of Judgement is the man who goes to his wife and she comes to him, and then he divulges her secret. (Muslim Book 8, Number 3369)

A Husband's Attitude
'Umar ibn al-Khattab (RA) said that a man came to his house to complain about his wife. On reaching the door of his house, he hears 'Umar's wife shouting at him and reviling him. Seeing this, he was about to go back, thinking that 'Umar himself was in the same position and, therefore, could hardly suggest any solution for his problem. 'Umar (RA) saw the man turn back, so he called him and enquired about the purpose of his visit. He said that he had come with a complaint against his wife, but turned back on seeing the Caliph in the same position. 'Umar (RA) told him that he tolerated the excesses of his wife for she had certain rights against him. He said, "Is it not true that she prepares food for me, washes clothes for me and suckles my children, thus saving me the expense of employing a cook, a washerman and a nurse, though she is not legally obliged in any way to do any of these things? Besides, I enjoy peace of mind because of her and am kept away from indecent acts on account of her. I therefore tolerate all her excesses on account of these benefits. It is right that you should also adopt the same attitude." quoted in Rahman, Role of Muslim Women page 149

The Prophet's Disapproval of Women Beaters
Patient behavior was the practice of the Prophet, even when his wife dared to address him harshly. Once his mother-in-law- saw her daughter strike him with her fist on his noble chest. When the enraged mother -in-law began to reproach her daughter, the Prophet smilingly said, "Leave her alone; they do worse than that." And once Abu Bakr, his father-in-law, was invited to settle some misunderstanding between him and Aishah. The Prophet said to her, "Will you speak, or shall I speak?" Aisha said, "You speak, but do not say except the truth." Abu Bakr was so outraged that he immediately struck her severely, forcing her to run and seek protection behind the back of the Prophet. Abu Bakr said, "O you the enemy of herself! Does the Messenger of Allah say but the truth?" The Prophet said, "O Abu Bakr, we did not invite you for this [harsh dealing with Aishah], nor did we anticipate it." quoted in: Mutual Rights and Obligations

And Allah (swt) knows best.
 
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