May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

Yas786 · 27 May 2010 at 00:35

FoxEye said:
So because a few men might be lacking in self control... all women should be wrap themselves up to the point of being totally unrecognisable.

And you wonder why people think "lol, Islam".

Who said anything about wrapping them up??...see this is exactly what annoys me about peoples general knowledge about islam....you only know whats been told to you by the media or what you see on the streets lol

LOL a few men???...come on now you know better than that...its far more than a few men, i would say a majority of men have a major lack of self control and thats not only aimed at muslim men but also a shedload of non muslim men too.

sanaxe1 · 27 May 2010 at 00:38

Why are people even carrying this on? Do people really think its a debate? its 1 side arguing for and against islam. Nobody in this thread has suddenly said " Dam your totally right i will change my view ". It is a total waste of time as your writing out lengthy posts and then people are dismissing them and then righting there own lengthy posts which are in-turn dismissed.

FoxEye · 27 May 2010 at 00:43

Spawn said:
Sadly your logic is flawed because the average muslim has felt insulted at this mockery...simple as that and to think that it will improve relations between muslims and non muslims remains to be seen but ill take a wild guess that it probably wont improve relations...you want the average muslim now to stand up and condemn terrorist/extremist acts??

Our logic is flawed? Maybe to you. But this is not a Muslim country. We don't care about your prophet. Really, we don't.

We will oppose extremists and all those who ally themselves with the extremists. If "moderate" muslims stand with the madmen, they must be removed from the country or imprisoned.

We will not tolerate violence or attempts to push through the muslim agenda forcibly. In this country, the collective will is towards freedom of thought and action, and sadly some aspects of Islam do not seem compatible with this.

That is what we're telling you. Your logic is flawed, because we are not a Muslim country, and the vast majority will not sacrifice freedom to conform to your religious beliefs.

Tefal · 27 May 2010 at 00:49

Spawn said:
Sadly your logic is flawed because the average muslim has felt insulted at this mockery

And the average human was offended by the murders death threats and fire bombings carried out by thousands of Muslims over cartoons.

So they decided to act.

Don't threat and murder people and they won't push back.

You don't hear from any other the other religions threatening to murder the south park guys over all the much worse crap they've put their gods through let along their prophets.

snowdog · 27 May 2010 at 00:55

Spawn said:
Ermmm yes otherwise there would be no rule regarding that...you might find it insulting but none of my muslim friends, relatives ie aunts and cousins nor does my mum find it insulting that islam has these rules....they are there for a reason...to stop a man from being DISTRACTED when praying...works for me.

There is nothing wrong with being distracted and looking at women. It is wrong to block it. It is wrong ( waste of time) to pray. It is not wrong to have sex for fun only. It is better for a man to stare at a woman than pray.
( all imo).

FoxEye · 27 May 2010 at 01:02

snowdog said:
There is nothing wrong with being distracted and looking at women. It is wrong to block it. It is wrong ( waste of time) to pray. It is not wrong to have sex for fun only. It is better for a man to stare at a woman than pray.
( all imo).

There a Christian might disagree with you, but...

The Christian way says you teach a man God's thoughts, and let that man decide for himself whether to change his ways or not to. Moreover, if he says he doesn't want to learn, there is no compulsion to make him learn against his will.

The Muslim way seems to be "unless you change your ways, we will complain, protest, claim to be offended, claim that our being offended is a great reason for you to conform to our wishes, and refuse to condemn those murdering you because of our being offended."

Clear difference.

Amnesia · 27 May 2010 at 01:04

FoxEye said:
We will oppose extremists and all those who ally themselves with the extremists.

the extremists are on both sides and their goal is to create a divide and hate .....going by this thread they are winning.

FoxEye said:
and the vast majority will not sacrifice freedom

it's not yours to give away, it just gets taken away and there is little you can do about it....unfortunately

FoxEye · 27 May 2010 at 01:10

Spawn said:
Who said anything about wrapping them up??...see this is exactly what annoys me about peoples general knowledge about islam....you only know whats been told to you by the media or what you see on the streets lol

LOL a few men???...come on now you know better than that...its far more than a few men, i would say a majority of men have a major lack of self control and thats not only aimed at muslim men but also a shedload of non muslim men too.

Then pray with your eyes closed. For pete's sake, how horny are you, that you can't pray in a room with women for fear of (presumably) letting one go in your trousers?

You know people from other religions have no trouble praying in the presence of women. Your arguments simply don't hold water.

Tefal · 27 May 2010 at 01:12

it's extremist to draw pictures now?

**** me the Hindus must want to murder that extremist Matt Groening for all the **** he's put them through in cartoon form.

Amnesia · 27 May 2010 at 01:13

FoxEye said:
Then pray with your eyes closed. For pete's sake, how horny are you, that you can't pray in a room with women for fear of (presumably) letting one go in your trousers?

You know people from other religions have no trouble praying in the presence of women. Your arguments simply don't hold water.

it's not just about in the presence....you do know they bend over when they pray ?
so you are telling me if you had a room full of women and they were bending over infront of you repeatedly that your mind would be on god ?

sure you have a bit of self control if you're a bit older but what about the younger teens ?

Amnesia · 27 May 2010 at 01:14

Tefal said:
it's extremist to draw pictures now?

**** me the Hindus must want to murder that extremist Matt Groening for all the **** he's put them through in cartoon form.

if thats a reply to me then ofcourse it isn't.....not sure why you had to ask

Tefal · 27 May 2010 at 01:15

Amnesia said:
it's not just about in the presence....you do know they bend over when they pray ?
so you are telling me if you had a room full of women and they were bending over infront of you repeatedly that your mind would be on god ?

sure you have a bit of self control if you're a bit older but what about the younger teens ?

You ain't seen the average church/mosque/Synagogue going crowd have you?

It's about as erotic as granny action 13.

Amnesia · 27 May 2010 at 01:16

true i havent....i was assuming people of all ages went there and surely that includes some fit birds

Tefal · 27 May 2010 at 01:16

Amnesia said:
if thats a reply to me then ofcourse it isn't.....not sure why you had to ask

the extremists are on both sides and their goal is to create a divide and hate .....going by this thread they are winning.

Strongly implies you think everyone involved in the drawings are equal to those storming embassies, murdering people and sending death threats.

Amnesia · 27 May 2010 at 01:18

Tefal said:
Strongly implies you think everyone involved in the drawings are equal to those storming embassies, murdering people and sending death threats.

it really doesn't lol but thanks for the laugh.

Tefal · 27 May 2010 at 01:20

So care to say who the extremists you where referring to are?

FoxEye · 27 May 2010 at 01:21

Amnesia said:
it's not just about in the presence....you do know they bend over when they pray ?
so you are telling me if you had a room full of women and they were bending over infront of you repeatedly that your mind would be on god ?

Seems to me that's a great test of your faith. If you can keep your mind on God then you're doing A-OK. Stare intently at the ass in front of you and you fail

If you can't... you can still close your eyes. Last time I checked, I could bend over just fine with my eyes closed. Then you won't be distracted either by the sweet ass in your periphery or the ceiling fan or that fly that keeps trying to land on the guy three rows ahead of you...

Amnesia · 27 May 2010 at 01:24

Tefal said:
So care to say who the extremists you where referring to are?

extremists are those who incite hatred....the people who twist and turn contents from the quran and brainwash people and get them to do suicide bombings or violence against non-muslims. people like hook man.

or those who incite hatred towards muslims treating them all like terrorists and misquote passages from the quran to back it up.

the extremist doesn't have to carry out a bombing himself...he can just create enough hate in another to do something or spread more hate.

Amnesia · 27 May 2010 at 01:25

FoxEye said:
Seems to me that's a great test of your faith. If you can keep your mind on God then you're doing A-OK. Stare intently at the ass in front of you and you fail

If you can't... you can still close your eyes. Last time I checked, I could bend over just fine with my eyes closed. Then you won't be distracted either by the sweet ass in your periphery or the ceiling fan or that fly that keeps trying to land on the guy three rows ahead of you...

or you could just take the temptation away.

FoxEye · 27 May 2010 at 01:29

Yup.

If you're tempted to drive fast... dig up the roads.
Tempted to watch TV? Shut down the TV companies.
Tempted to eat unhealthy food? Destroy McDonalds.
Tempted to look at a woman? Make them go sit somewhere you can't see them.

All make the same level of sense.