Michael Schumacher 'Hurt In Skiing Accident'

DJMK4 · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:06

To be fair though he is not the only F1 driver to drive a little over the edge and get penalized for it

Theophany · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:07

majnu said:
Senna did the same tactics but to be fair it was "allowed" in F1 at that time as the rules were pretty slack iirc.

Depends on how you view it. Senna had been DSQ'd from the WDC the previous year for driving through an escape route and thus not completing race distance despite the fact that this was then (and continues to be) common practice when drivers outbrake themselves or lock up.

The problem comparing Schumi to Senna is that Senna has the benefit of having been martyred by his death and romanticised by the film about him a couple of years ago, imo.

Dis86 said:
I think the reason in 94 was that basically it made no difference if they disqualified him or not. Nobody else (except Hill who was forced to retire from the race as a result of his actions) could win the title.

Well if they had disqualified him from the WDC, Hill would've been champion, as happened in '97 with Villeneuve. As above, such a penalty would not have been without precedent.

Dis86 · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:10

Theophany said:
Well if they had disqualified him from the WDC, Hill would've been champion, as happened in '97 with Villeneuve. As above, such a penalty would not have been without precedent.

I don't think they had the power to be able to in '94. Sure the ability only came about afterwards. I might be wrong on that but it was the impression I had.

VFs video shows it perfectly though. I was watching the race live and still remember the look on Hills face. Such seething anger.

Edrof · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:12

Dis86 said:
Not always. He used them in situations where the penalty he faced would be less severe than the other person winning. The one that always ground my gears was the deliberate crash with hill. Schumacher was in the lead in the drivers championship but only just. It was only down to him and hill. Nobody could catch them. Thus he prevented hill winning by driving over his suspension struts and basically writing off hills car. Didn't matter that Schumacher wrote his off too because hill was the only other driver in for the title.

As a starry-eyed young man I loved watching F1. The above incident was the main reason that I stopped watching it and never have since. The way he cheated so obviously and got away with it was bizarre and disgusting.

Theophany · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:13

Dis86 said:
I don't think they had the power to be able to in '94. Sure the ability only came about afterwards. I might be wrong on that but it was the impression I had.

VFs video shows it perfectly though. I was watching the race live and still remember the look on Hills face. Such seething anger.

Ahh, fair enough. I thought Senna was DSQ'd from the '89 WDC, but remembered wrongly!

deuse · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:18

Theophany said:
The problem comparing Schumi to Senna is that Senna has the benefit of having been martyred by his death and romanticised by the film about him a couple of years ago, imo.

I like a lot of your posts but this time you have gone full retard and you never go full retard. Was you even born then or was you a baby?

Theophany · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:20

deuse said:
I like a lot of your posts but this time you have gone full retard and you never go full retard. Was you even born then or was you a baby?

LOL. Maybe I didn't come across as intended, what was it in particular that strikes you as being full retard? (I'm not trying to be inflammatory btw, Senna is one of my favourite drivers of all time)

Skunkworks · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:26

Dimple said:
I know bugger all about cars going round and round a racetrack and know nothing of Shumacher except he was good at going round and round.
Can somebody tell me why he is so hated by many people?
Is it a Man Utd type hate because of success?

Dimple said:
But were those moves legal?
If they were illegal then surely it would have ruled against him?

Trolls everywhere take note - this is how it's done.

deuse · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:32

Theophany said:
LOL. Maybe I didn't come across as intended, what was it in particular that strikes you as being full retard? (I'm not trying to be inflammatory btw, Senna is one of my favourite drivers of all time)

Lets keep it on topic

Skunkworks said:
Trolls everywhere take note - this is how it's done.

Yes I did ask him to delete the post but oh hum.

RoboCod · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:41

It's easy, just unsubscribe from this sack of **** and subscribe to the motorsport thread where the discussion is more appropriate and less retarded.

~Mike~ · 1 Jan 2014 at 15:52

Captain Planet said:
It's easy, just unsubscribe from this sack of **** and subscribe to the motorsport thread where the discussion is more appropriate and less retarded.

+1

V F · 1 Jan 2014 at 16:03

Captain Planet said:
It's easy, just unsubscribe from this sack of **** and subscribe to the motorsport thread where the discussion is more appropriate and less retarded.

All because of one comment? You sound deeply offended. Is this what you say to people in person if you don't like what they say?

Skunkworks · 1 Jan 2014 at 16:11

Captain Planet said:
It's easy, just unsubscribe from this sack of **** and subscribe to the motorsport thread where the discussion is more appropriate and less retarded.

Is this an example of the quality discussion to be had?

SexyGreyFox · 1 Jan 2014 at 16:49

Skunkworks said:
Trolls everywhere take note - this is how it's done.

deuse said:
Lets keep it on topic
Yes I did ask him to delete the post but oh hum.

What a pair of pillocks.
I know nothing of F1, never watched it but I know Shumacher is very good at it.
Explain your yourselves please.

If the Mods think I'm trolling then they can delete it but I assure you I'm not.
Now why don't you both grow up and explain.

Skunkworks · 1 Jan 2014 at 16:53

Dimple said:
What a pair of pillocks.

I thought insults were against the rules?

SexyGreyFox · 1 Jan 2014 at 16:57

Skunkworks said:
I thought insults were against the rules?

You've called me a troll when I'm not.
Instead of insulting me explain why Shumacher is hated so much.

Duke · 1 Jan 2014 at 16:58

Dimple said:
What a pair of pillocks.
I know nothing of F1, never watched it but I know Shumacher is very good at it.
Explain your yourselves please.

If the Mods think I'm trolling then they can delete it but I assure you I'm not.
Now why don't you both grow up and explain.

Probably not off to a good start by saying 'I know bugger all about cars going round and round'. I wouldn't go into a footy thread about someone I don't know or really care about saying 'I know bugger all about men running up and down a field'.

SexyGreyFox · 1 Jan 2014 at 17:01

Duke said:
Probably not off to a good start by saying 'I know bugger all about cars going round and round'. I wouldn't go into a footy thread about someone I don't know or really care about saying 'I know bugger all about men running up and down a field'.

but if you wanted to know why eg Suarez is hated, then it would be a good starting place to ask from.
It seems that as a bloke I should know about motor sports but I don't care about them but I care about a individual fighting for their life and I just want to know why some people don't care about this individual.

I wish I never asked.

Duke · 1 Jan 2014 at 17:03

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schumacher#Controversy

SexyGreyFox · 1 Jan 2014 at 17:08

Duke said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schumacher#Controversy

Enraged by the German's attitude, Warwick drove to the pits and chased a fleeing Schumacher on foot through the Sauber pits. He eventually caught up with Schumacher, and it took intervention from Jochen Mass to prevent Warwick physically assaulting Schumacher

Thanks, he's been a naughty boy.