Military coup in Turkey?

[Rroff]

I'm hoping thats just another angle of the shot from earlier. Jesus christ, I hope this calms down.

Wondering if the tracers are fake as though the gunshots correlate with a live stream I was watching earlier there was no visible tracers from the air and there doesn't seem to be the normal ricochets when you open up with that kind of weapon from that angle.

 

[dowie]

That assumes elections are fair and (mostly) free of corruption.

Not to mention having a free press, allowing demonstrations etc..

 

[dholdi]

Helicopter just shot down allegedly.

 

[sniffy]

I thought the coup group had it wrapped up but this doesn't look good.

 

[Bonjour]

Reuters claiming fighter jet has shot down a helicopter being used by those attempting the coup

 

[Craterloads]

Hearing rumours coop organised by Gulem, a religious leader exiled in the US who has a large following....

 

[Rids]

Wondering if the tracers are fake as though the gunshots correlate with a live stream I was watching earlier there was no visible tracers from the air and there doesn't seem to be the normal ricochets when you open up with that kind of weapon from that angle.

I must admit, when you mentioned the angle of the tracers I did figure it looked a bit fake.

As for the rest, thats way above my knowledge, I have no expectation of what you'd expect to see.

 

[The Funktopus]

Depends on whether that crowd are advancing. Many people have been killed by the unarmed

I suppose we can regard Oscar Pistorious as a true pioneer then.

 

[XeNoN89]

BBC saying a jet just shot down a helicopter

 

[Mr Jack]

The BBC just reported a helicopter was just shot down by a fighter jet. Military vs military

 

[dowie]

Reuters claiming fighter jet has shot down a helicopter being used by those attempting the coup

jeeze... it would have perhaps helped to get the majority of the armed forces onside first... if it turns out to only be a small portion of it then this could get incredibly messy

 

[bingham67]

https://twitter.com/ruslantrad/status/754088203456512000

Beating tank with stick!

 

[muon]

Not to mention having a free press, allowing demonstrations etc..

Again, the link between democracy and liberty is a lot more complicated than that. They are not one and the same.

The UK for example doesn't have absolute freedom of speech or right to demonstrations. Is it a democracy?

 

[Rroff]

I must admit, when you mentioned the angle of the tracers I did figure it looked a bit fake.

As for the rest, thats way above my knowledge, I have no expectation of what you'd expect to see.

With those kind of weapons fired at that angle you normally get a few tracers going skywards from the point of impact as well which were entirely absent.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

theres something that makes me wow at the chopper opening up. We've all seen it in war, but when it's in a city and civilians running around, there's a very different feeling to it.

 

[Tuppy_Glossop]

BBC News Channel only seems to have Erdogan-loyal insight.

 

[muon]

theres something that makes me wow at the chopper opening up. We've all seen it in war, but when it's in a city and civilians running around, there's a very different feeling to it.

And yet in a war zone it happens with civilians in buildings and outside etc. Just more normalised in our minds for some reason.

I agree though, it feels very weird to see in a non warzone.

 

[dowie]

Again, the link between democracy and liberty is a lot more complicated than that. They are not one and the same.

I didn't claim they are

The UK for example doesn't have absolute freedom of speech or right to demonstrations. Is it a democracy?

yes

 

[Overslop]

I suppose we can regard Oscar Pistorious as a true pioneer then.

No, he was unlegged.

 

[r44b]

theres something that makes me wow at the chopper opening up. We've all seen it in war, but when it's in a city and civilians running around, there's a very different feeling to it.

Surreal isn't it.