New Star Trek series - 2017

Steampunk · 3 Mar 2017 at 17:52

The fact the original show runner has left/was fired and the show is massively behind schedule is probably bad enough on it's own. It speaks volumes that things are not going well behind the scenes.

Trig · 3 Mar 2017 at 18:31

Too many timelines and crap, Trek was always linear until Enterprise came out, now JJ has screwed timelines and stuff it's all going sideways..

Steampunk · 3 Mar 2017 at 18:38

Trig said:
Too many timelines and crap, Trek was always linear until Enterprise came out, now JJ has screwed timelines and stuff it's all going sideways..

Enterprise made sense, because it covers the start of human interstellar space exploration and the seeds of the Federation. The new JJ Abrams movies made sense as a way of not having to work around decades of canon. What was not needed was yet another timeline for a series on TV, and probably not another one set in the past. If they wanted to make it more hi-tech and glossy, they should have gone forwards to after Voyager/TNG/DS9. I suspect that after the success of the movie reboots, they are too scared to come up with an original setting and want to stick with the TOS era and thereabouts, because Kirk/Spock sells.

Gerard · 4 Mar 2017 at 15:15

Steampunk said:
Enterprise made sense, because it covers the start of human interstellar space exploration and the seeds of the Federation.

Or it would have done had the ship and show not been called Enterprise, considering the lineage of ships with that name was always known then Rick Berman decides to shoehorn in another out of nowhere.

CaptainRAVE · 4 Mar 2017 at 15:38

Why oh why can they not just produce a decent series.

Efour · 5 Mar 2017 at 12:11

oh well

Nitefly · 5 Mar 2017 at 12:40

I'd actually much rather it tried to be fresh and new in terms of effects - when I heard the iconic 'radar sound' in the trailer I thought 'trying too hard to appease fan base'. It's a retro sound effect of the era - no need to use it again. It should stand on its own feet and not be average material trying to stand on 'Easter eggs'.

That said, the rumours haven't given me high hopes.

R3X · 5 Mar 2017 at 16:26

Can kinda see why though they decided to not go with the new jjverse trek universe, everything looks like an apple store no one has the budget for that.

If they set a trek series in 25th century they then kinda throw a spanner into jjverse universe or it still gets too expensive on the budget.

I would have loved to see the 50+ tng, ds9, voyager actors turning up in the 25th century along with tpol naturally but again it dispels jjverse too.

Think they were forced to go back to the old days where it was cheaper and doable at least.

Another wild idea someone mentioned why not reboot TNG........

MooMoo444 · 5 Mar 2017 at 18:24

R3X said:
Another wild idea someone mentioned why not reboot TNG........

You'd never get anywhere close to the awesomeness of the original actors. It would just suck.

It would be like rebooting Lord of the Rings, but having all of the fellowship as teenage kids.

Richdog · 6 Mar 2017 at 09:12

Trig said:
Too many timelines and crap, Trek was always linear until Enterprise came out, now JJ has screwed timelines and stuff it's all going sideways..

The problem is that Star Trek was not mainstream since TOS... Enterprise further tarnished the reputation for many people. JJ has rebooted it and made it "cool" again and it now appeals to a broader audience.

This means that any new series is a major gamble.

oweneades · 8 Mar 2017 at 15:46

Having spent more time on Stark Trek: Online than I want to admit (Fleet Admiral etc), I would love a new series set in the same time period (early 25th century for reference).

I know the game is considered official canon but it opens up so many potential story arcs. Ships have Quantum slipstream drives and Transwarp. USS Enterprise lives on as Vesta (F) and Oddysey (G)classes. Loads of cool weapons and tech (although it is perhaps a little unrealistic when my Intel Dreadnaught (USS Blackadder) can take on an entire fleet of Borg cubes...

).

Fills the ST void that the Lens-flare films can't fill.

HeX · 8 Mar 2017 at 15:57

oweneades said:
Fills the ST void that the Lens-flare films can't fill.

If you want to fill that void with a proper continuation of the ST timeline then you need to read the books as there is a large group of writers that all collaborate to give a consistent and planned narrative of events occurring post-Nemesis.

http://www.shastrix.com/books/star-trek-reading-order.php

You have the Enterprise books detailing the Romulan War (brilliant) and detailing the early days of the Federation.

Then you have a multitude of TNG, DS9, VOY, Titan (Riker's Ship), Aventine (Dax's Ship), Section 31 (Super spy Bashir... Julian Bashir). Which fill in everything else.

oweneades · 8 Mar 2017 at 16:01

HeX said:
If you want to fill that void with a proper continuation of the ST timeline then you need to read the books as there is a large group of writers that all collaborate to give a consistent and planned narrative of events occurring post-Nemesis.

http://www.shastrix.com/books/star-trek-reading-order.php

You have the Enterprise books detailing the Romulan War (brilliant) and detailing the early days of the Federation.

Then you have a multitude of TNG, DS9, VOY, Titan (Riker's Ship), Vesta (Dax's Ship), Section 31 (Super spy Bashir... Julian Bashir). Which fill in everything else.

Thanks

The books are next on my list after I finish The Lost Space series I am currently reading.

Perfect balance of the Game for the "Pew Pews" and the books for the story / lore.

HeX · 8 Mar 2017 at 16:12

You have a lot to look forward to! The Destiny Trilogy is superb, full on Federation wide invasion by the Borg, billions dead, really shakes up the whole 'Federation Utopia'.

GeezerButler · 8 Mar 2017 at 18:04

So Jason Isaacs gets the captain's chair then - not a bad choice. Not sure about the name Captain Lorca though....

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jason-isaacs-captain-star-trek-discovery/

R3X · 8 Mar 2017 at 22:58

oh so we get a male captain that is good thought the show was going to be run by a female lieutenant.

R3X · 8 Mar 2017 at 23:04

oweneades said:
Having spent more time on Stark Trek: Online than I want to admit (Fleet Admiral etc), I would love a new series set in the same time period (early 25th century for reference).

I know the game is considered official canon but it opens up so many potential story arcs. Ships have Quantum slipstream drives and Transwarp. USS Enterprise lives on as Vesta (F) and Oddysey (G)classes. Loads of cool weapons and tech (although it is perhaps a little unrealistic when my Intel Dreadnaught (USS Blackadder) can take on an entire fleet of Borg cubes... ).

Fills the ST void that the Lens-flare films can't fill.

Interesting info, I have just done the finished the entire collection (each tv series + film) binge watching for 4-5 months !

I always wondered if federation ships would get quantum slipstream stable enough to work, good to hear they did and transwarp as a bonus.

This new trek show is either going to be a hit and make new fans and keep the old ones or epically fail since they did not make a late 24th or 25th century show or one that follows on from jjverse !

TNA · 27 Mar 2017 at 21:17

This is taking ages... Hope it is good. No time travel or religion hopefully.

Trig · 28 Mar 2017 at 08:17

Religion and Politics have always been part of Trek though as it's part of the human story

TNA · 28 Mar 2017 at 11:08

Trig said:
Religion and Politics have always been part of Trek though as it's part of the human story

I understand that. I have no problem with politics being in it, I even actually really like that part. But religion, not so much. Just wish they go easy on it a little.