And IMO this is where it will fall down as people are (for the most part) sick of gritty and dark and want something a bit brighter and hopeful like traditional Trek, or at least I know I do.
But that's just my opinion so take it or leave it as you wish.
And IMO this is where it will fall down as people are (for the most part) sick of gritty and dark and want something a bit brighter and hopeful like traditional Trek, or at least I know I do.
But that's just my opinion so take it or leave it as you wish.
They stopped making Trek because of "Trek fatigue". They have to try something different or it will just be all the same Trek we've seen before. It's not like all the previous series have disappeared, they are always out there to watch if that's what people want to see, but they had to try something different this time around.
Yep. Watched the rest of episode 3, going to leave it now until the second half of the season to see if they manage to do anything to salvage this.
Last few thoughts on episode 3 in particular, the series in general:
1) We already know that the experiment that the Discovery is involved in will be a failure because we know what happens in the rest of the prime Trek timeline. So why should we actually care about it?
2) Some actual praise! The shuttle design was quite fitting. The engineering set was alright. The outer space visuals are still excellent.
3) I still can't see how they're going to get from Sarek adopting Burnham to his being so against Spock getting involved with Starfleet and all those humans.
4) What on Earth was going on with that moment with the Klingon on the other ship? Where he shushed them? That feels like something that deserved a bit more looking at.
5) Burnham is said to be the first ever person to mutiny in Starfleet history. So assuming that this incarnation of Starfleet was founded when the Federation was formed in the early 2160s that means that they went about 90 years without a single mutinous incident. Really?
6) Why was Burnham reciting Alice In Wonderland in the Jeffries tube? Why did that Klingon shush the boarding party? Did the captain genuinely let that shuttle pilot die at the start of the episode just to get Burnham on board? Why does nothing in this series make a shred of sense?
Yep. Watched the rest of episode 3, going to leave it now until the second half of the season to see if they manage to do anything to salvage this.
Last few thoughts on episode 3 in particular, the series in general:
1) We already know that the experiment that the Discovery is involved in will be a failure because we know what happens in the rest of the prime Trek timeline. So why should we actually care about it?
2) Some actual praise! The shuttle design was quite fitting. The engineering set was alright. The outer space visuals are still excellent.
3) I still can't see how they're going to get from Sarek adopting Burnham to his being so against Spock getting involved with Starfleet and all those humans.
4) What on Earth was going on with that moment with the Klingon on the other ship? Where he shushed them? That feels like something that deserved a bit more looking at.
5) Burnham is said to be the first ever person to mutiny in Starfleet history. So assuming that this incarnation of Starfleet was founded when the Federation was formed in the early 2160s that means that they went about 90 years without a single mutinous incident. Really?
6) Why was Burnham reciting Alice In Wonderland in the Jeffries tube? Why did that Klingon shush the boarding party? Did the captain genuinely let that shuttle pilot die at the start of the episode just to get Burnham on board? Why does nothing in this series make a shred of sense?
In what way did it feel like Trek??? Hell, for a while there it was looking like an installment of a horror movie franchise. And I've no idea at all what's Trekian about a security officer saying "We have to feed the animals", even when talking about prisoners.
Yep. Watched the rest of episode 3, going to leave it now until the second half of the season to see if they manage to do anything to salvage this.
Last few thoughts on episode 3 in particular, the series in general:
1) We already know that the experiment that the Discovery is involved in will be a failure because we know what happens in the rest of the prime Trek timeline. So why should we actually care about it?
2) Some actual praise! The shuttle design was quite fitting. The engineering set was alright. The outer space visuals are still excellent.
3) I still can't see how they're going to get from Sarek adopting Burnham to his being so against Spock getting involved with Starfleet and all those humans.
4) What on Earth was going on with that moment with the Klingon on the other ship? Where he shushed them? That feels like something that deserved a bit more looking at.
5) Burnham is said to be the first ever person to mutiny in Starfleet history. So assuming that this incarnation of Starfleet was founded when the Federation was formed in the early 2160s that means that they went about 90 years without a single mutinous incident. Really?
6) Why was Burnham reciting Alice In Wonderland in the Jeffries tube? Why did that Klingon shush the boarding party? Did the captain genuinely let that shuttle pilot die at the start of the episode just to get Burnham on board? Why does nothing in this series make a shred of sense?
You don't know 1 is true. It could be classified because it's too dangerous or something. Doesn't mean it fails or never happens.
4 - Obviously the Klingon knew the beast was present and didn't want them to alert it.
5 - Not impossible in a utopian future.
6 - Was explained in the Ep if you actually watched it - maybe you didn't from your other points.
Find it laughable you're criticizing it so harshly yet you missed some obvious points. Maybe you should rewatch with your eyes open.
Really good episode, looks like the rest of the season will be about the cool new stuff they find and explore, as well as fighting some Klingons, neat.
Also that beast was straight out of Doom 3/Dead Space!
Can't wait to see what secrets the Discovery holds.
The dead bodies, they were pretty grotesque too, in a good way. nice to see Trek grown up in this manner. It''s certainly updated with modern times, even given it's setting.
General public opinion based on tweets etc is very promising now too.
It was very trek to me. With a somewhat dark streak - kinda like the Equinox from Voyager. Willing to do whatever it takes to get things done. The new captain is great.
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