*** Nintendo Switch ***

Raymond Lin said:
But Nintendo has been behind on the tech side for a while, this isn't news.

Like PC peeps can boast about having 4K for a while.
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I have had 4K on my PC since 2014 ;):D

As much as I love graphics, that does not stop me from enjoying a good game. Nintendo make good games I like = 1080p or not I will buy :)


Craig1981 said:
Are they seriously selling the games for this new console for £60 each?! And the console itself isn't that cheap either.

Why are people so desperate to pre-order this? Really not seeing the appeal, other than a new Zelda and Mario game.
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Games are overpriced, I agree. They will probably settle at around £40-£50 in the end.

There are more exclusives than just those two. You cannot see appeal, does not mean others cannot/should not. I feel the same way about the other consoles for example, apart from The Last of Us, why do people order a PS4, or sell it to upgrade to a PS4 Pro? Why not buy a PC and play games with more fps and better graphics? Many reasons I suppose, but just because I do not see the appeal of those consoles, does not mean others won't.
 
Broken Hope said:
I just hope Nintendo's paid online is only like £5-£10 a year, because frankly they can't justify much more. How can a company look at Sony's Instant Game Collection or Microsofts Games with Gold and think getting to rent a NES or SNES game for a month is competitive?

Not to mention there aren't a whole lot of online multiplayer games on Nintendo systems in the first place.
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Exactly. This reminds me of the Pokemon Bank service they have. As a product, it's not that amazing and has many major limitations, especially since you can't even auto-renew the subscription, buy multiple years at once or even renew at any time. You have to wait till it's just about to run out before they let you renew. But we all put up with it's flaws because it's great value for money at a mere £5 a year.

montymint said:
http://store.nintendo.co.uk/nintendo-switch/accessories.list

£60 directly from nintendo :-)
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Still too expensive. And I get annoyed when MS and Sony try charging £40 for their controllers (admittedly I did pay too much for my XB1S pad too), £60 for the bog-standard pro-controller is taking the mick, even if it has HD rumble, motion control and NFC.

Raymond Lin said:
But Nintendo has been behind on the tech side for a while, this isn't news.

Like PC peeps can boast about having 4K for a while.
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Which is why the Switch is awesome from a handheld perspective, it's cutting edge for that. 1080p should be the standard for home console though, that where Nintendo messed up. They marketed Switch as a home console on the go, as opposed to a handheld that connects to the TV. One way paints it in a better light.

I also think you overestimate PC users and 4k, the way I see it, most of us can't even get proper 4k on PCs since they hardware for it either isn't there or is too expensive (multi-GPU or watercooled Titan Pascal required for 60 fps). So 4k is still a while off yet even on PC.
 
mahius said:
I also think you overestimate PC users and 4k, the way I see it, most of us can't even get proper 4k on PCs since they hardware for it either isn't there or is too expensive (multi-GPU or watercooled Titan Pascal required for 60 fps). So 4k is still a while off yet even on PC.
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Nah. 4K has been here for me for a while. Been doing it just fine since 2014. It depends on what one's requirements are. I am happy to turn off useless effects like depth of field, motion blur etc. I am also happy to go from Ultra to Very High setting for things that I cannot tell the difference visually on. All those add up to a lot of fps.

I have been happily playing latest games 40-50fps with my 1070 and things just look a lot sharper and better vs 1440p. Then you have games like FIFA or DOTA 2 where I get like close to 200fps in those. So yeah, it depends. I have been gaming happily with it. But for some who need minimum 144hfps for their 144hz monitors, they indeed will be waiting a long time yet. I have no need for it as I do not play competitively. 30-60fps will do me just fine.
 
My impression of 4K is that it's been slightly overstated - in 'real world' viewing you can't notice a big difference unless uncomfortably close to the TV. The HDR stuff with the expanded colour gamut does make a big difference though.
 
Nitefly said:
My impression of 4K is that it's been slightly overstated - in 'real world' viewing you can't notice a big difference unless uncomfortably close to the TV. The HDR stuff with the expanded colour gamut does make a big difference though.
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Yeah more or less mate.

To be honest the Pro does a good job of 4K, I don't notice the difference between that and my gaming PC.

1080p is fine for the switch, if ir has decent support then i'll get one. I'd want a metriod game though.
 
mahius said:
Which is why the Switch is awesome from a handheld perspective, it's cutting edge for that. 1080p should be the standard for home console though, that where Nintendo messed up. They marketed Switch as a home console on the go, as opposed to a handheld that connects to the TV. One way paints it in a better light.
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I know what you mean but I think marketing it that way may have been the right choice in terms sales potential, and it's the best way to get the across the hybrid idea to consumers.

I think we'll see quite the mix of resolutions from Switch while docked, a few may be 720p but I can see targets generally being 900p/1080p as it's a solution that makes a lot of sense in terms of using the additional resources.

As a developer you always want your game to look the best it can with the best IQ possible. Software developers have to find the right balance for the experience a game offers, all games could run at 1080p with ideal IQ to match on Switch, but that would limit graphical/creative quality in other areas (e.g. they might have to add more fogging in Zelda, or cut down some of that grass). There's no magic programming solution that can push any game to 1080p or add a powerful AA solution without sacrificing framerate or something else. Additionally, Nintendo often prioritize framerate (60fps) over IQ in in their more action focused games.

Nintendo are a business but they're also not trying to spite consumers. Due to the Switch also being handheld device, the home console experience is indeed compromised somewhat.

Phate said:
Splatoon 2 Release date August 18th

https://twitter.com/MyNintendoNews/status/821470089203552257
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This is a big one for me, love Splatoon on WiiU!.
 
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Nitefly said:
My impression of 4K is that it's been slightly overstated - in 'real world' viewing you can't notice a big difference unless uncomfortably close to the TV. The HDR stuff with the expanded colour gamut does make a big difference though.
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If you are referring to watching TV and Movies, then I agree. This is why I will be keeping my 1080p Plasma for another 2 years at least before going OLED with proper HDR.

But in many games I have played I see a big difference going from 1440p to 2160p. Games just look so much sharper. Tried to go back to 1440p last year to get 144hz and Freesync and I could not do. Sent it back and stuck with my 4K monitor. Don't forget also with a monitor people sit much closer, so there really is a difference for those who can see or appreciate it.
 
Warbie said:
For what it's worth, I like the idea of a single Nintendo console and this must be what Nintendo are testing the waters with. Slowly phase out the 3DS and have all their developing power behind a single platform that let's you play locally and online at home and on the move. Let us join it to a Nintendo account with access to all our purchased Nintendo games and job done.
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I'm clinging on to this. Within 18 months, see a bit of a price drop, begin phasing out the 3DS. Multiple Switches per household with a unified platform. All the portable and home dev teams together.

Not convinced that it's going to happen at all though! :D
 
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