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^^ We've got a 4K Samsung, no input lag or ghosting but has banding issues, and backlight bleed. TV's are never perfect in my experience. Unless you go all out for a decent OLED screen. Prices on OLED are getting better every year though. Once they are around £1000 will grab one xD
 
Still on my sony kd55x9005 4k limited colour 4k cost 3k when released, purchased a samsung 55 ks8000 a couple of weeks ago and sent it back, picture quality garbage compared to this 3 yr old sony, cloudy was just the start, 1st time i shyed away from sony, never again, the motion handling and picture processor on the sony's is night and day better.
 
^^ We've got a 4K Samsung, no input lag or ghosting but has banding issues, and backlight bleed. TV's are never perfect in my experience. Unless you go all out for a decent OLED screen. Prices on OLED are getting better every year though. Once they are around £1000 will grab one xD

Yeah we get a bit of light bleed but only on TV channels. Games looks spot on.

Been playing The Division again lately at a solid 60FPS at 4K with some settings dialled down and looks stunning. This is with a Titan XP
 
Still on my sony kd55x9005 4k limited colour 4k cost 3k when released, purchased a samsung 55 ks8000 a couple of weeks ago and sent it back, picture quality garbage compared to this 3 yr old sony, cloudy was just the start, 1st time i shyed away from sony, never again, the motion handling and picture processor on the sony's is night and day better.

Yeah our Sony Bravia in the bedroom has a much better picture but couldn't find any with decent DP input (not at a reasonable price anyhow)
 
Yeah our Sony Bravia in the bedroom has a much better picture but couldn't find any with decent DP input (not at a reasonable price anyhow)

Yeah that's the only thing i would like to be on my next sony, yeah price for the better sets is not everybody friendly but the picture difference says it all, as far as I'm concerned it's a classic case of you get what you pay for with high end tv's
 
4K on TV is awful experience (been their done that)
input lag is horrid even in game mode

Exactly! Why do you guys think that a 4k TV at 68 inches is half the price of a 4k monitor of the same size. Input lag is an issue, the technology is completely different. a lot of tvs have a different way to produce screen updates and they are not as good as monitors. You try playing an f1 game at a decent skill level on a pc via tv and then switch to a monitor, you will shave seconds off your lap times.

You guys speak of HDR, I bet you don't know what your Nits/lumens level is and if you do I bet it's under standard which means you are not seeing true HDR images anyway. It's harder to get a higher Nits level as the TV grows in size so at 68 inches I'd imagine yours is at most 400 which is sub standard for true HDR images.

TVs are good for consoles because they are designed for them and up until very recently haven't needed to be particularly sharp or lag free as consoles havent been able to produce the best image quality or needed to have the fastest screen updates in regards to input lag. Try using a mouse on a TV with your pc in a game like cs go. The difference is huge
 
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Anyway, you guys don't seem to know what you are taking about. I am happy with my rAcer 12k hybrid touch screen levetating see through, wizard grade IPP panel. Its been rock solid for the past 5 years and I can't see the need to upgrade until 24k comes round next year!
 
Exactly! Why do you guys think that a 4k TV at 68 inches is half the price of a 4k monitor of the same size. Input lag is an issue, the technology is completely different. a lot of tvs have a different way to produce screen updates and they are not as good as monitors. You try playing an f1 game at a decent skill level on a pc via tv and then switch to a monitor, you will shave seconds off your lap times.

You guys speak of HDR, I bet you don't know what your Nits/lumens level is and if you do I bet it's under standard which means you are not seeing true HDR images anyway. It's harder to get a higher Nits level as the TV grows in size so at 68 inches I'd imagine yours is at most 400 which is sub standard for true HDR images.

TVs are good for consoles because they are designed for them and up until very recently haven't needed to be particularly sharp or lag free as consoles havent been able to produce the best image quality or needed to have the fastest screen updates in regards to input lag. Try using a mouse on a TV with your pc in a game like cs go. The difference is huge

Good Tvs have minimal input lag and its acceptable on some games. Playing The Witcher on a large 4k Tv is a much better experience than playing it on a small monitor,. If I want to enjoy the visuals in a game I'll play it on the large TV, if it's a game that needs high fps then it's the monitor. Both are there to be enjoyed, ignoring one is only limiting your options.
 
Good Tvs have minimal input lag and its acceptable on some games. Playing The Witcher on a large 4k Tv is a much better experience than playing it on a small monitor,. If I want to enjoy the visuals in a game I'll play it on the large TV, if it's a game that needs high fps then it's the monitor. Both are there to be enjoyed, ignoring one is only limiting your options.

Why not play the witcher 3 on a large monitor? It just seems a bit crazy to me that people will spend thousands on a pc and connect it upto a TV that's on a stand or wall 8 foot away from them where they can't see the detail and would get a better visual experience (in my humble opinion). If you are into armchair gaming then by a ps4 pro and save yourself a grand. The PC gaming crowd has probably changed since I started many moons ago but if you have the money to plug your titan xp into a TV then go buy a console for it instead and leave the titan plugged into a monitor it deserves.
 
Why not play the witcher 3 on a large monitor? It just seems a bit crazy to me that people will spend thousands on a pc and connect it upto a TV that's on a stand or wall 8 foot away from them where they can't see the detail and would get a better visual experience (in my humble opinion). If you are into armchair gaming then by a ps4 pro and save yourself a grand. The PC gaming crowd has probably changed since I started many moons ago but if you have the money to plug your titan xp into a TV then go buy a console for it instead and leave the titan plugged into a monitor it deserves.

Because some of us live with partners and gaming in the lounge is much more sociable in that regard. Maybe it's an age thing I dunno
 
Because some of us live with partners and gaming in the lounge is much more sociable in that regard. Maybe it's an age thing I dunno

That I do understand, I have a wife and child of 3 with another one on the way. My personal situation means that playing in the front room on the family TV means I don't game in peace. I have a spare room (that will soon be gone) and that is where I can get away from it all and get sucked into a different world for a few hours.

This is all besides the point though, gaming on a monitor is better than on a TV hands down if you want the best "visual" experience, but how long that will last I'm not sure, the technological distance between the two visual portals to another world is getting smaller and smaller so I will only say it is for now........ ;)
 
Horses for courses. There is no one best that fits all when it comes to monitors. This thread has become a monitor thread.

Now let's get back on topic, any news on Vega? :p
 
Horses for courses. There is no one best that fits all when it comes to monitors. This thread has become a monitor thread.

Now let's get back on topic, any news on Vega? :p

In the conversation of monitors vs monitors yes. Yes I'm aware im feeding a fire here, I will stop all monitor vs TV talk now and advise any others that want to continue to talk to me about it to open a new thread
 
All I can say with this TV vs monitor nonsense issue: try playing Total Warhammer 4K on your 65 inch 4K TV : Grainy as hell, plus logistically a nightmare!
 
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