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**Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Thread**

LoadsaMoney said:
I reckon £750 and up, as the 1080 starts at £560, and goes up to around that (for the WCs).
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But 1080 has been out for nearly a year. The only way the 1080 won't drop price is if Vega turns out to be pap or AMD decide to charge a lot for it and not improve on nvidia's price for performance. But how can that be when Raja himself said he wants to drastically lower the price of 4K gaming. Either Raja is talking out of his backside or people just spouting random numbers putting very little thought into it.

Every time a new card is coming out people seem to always go by and look at the current gen prices and completely forget the trend seen in the past :p
 
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TNA said:
But 1080 has been out for nearly a year. The only way the 1080 won't drop price is if Vega turns out to be pap or AMD decide to charge a lot for it and not improve on nvidia's price for performance. But how can that be when Raja himself said he wants to drastically lower the price of 4K gaming. Either Raja is talking out of his backside or people just spouting random numbers without putting very little thought into it.

Every time a new card is coming out people seem to always go by and look at the current gen prices and completely forget the trend seen in the past :p
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if NVidia were going to release the 1080ti at a lower price point, the 1080's would be going down in price more drastically, the 1080ti will be £800+ at near titan performance, AMD are not going to give the top vega card away, there will always be lower entry cards from both AMD and NVidia but for the high end expect high prices, raja said he wants cheaper 4k gaming, did he mean now or the future? and the trend is to up the price, never seen a high end card come out cheaper than the one before it. the 980ti was an exception to the rule. I don't think NVidia will be doing the same this time to kill off titan XP sales.
 
vapor matt said:
if NVidia were going to release the 1080ti at a lower price point, the 1080's would be going down in price more drastically, the 1080ti will be £800+ at near titan performance, AMD are not going to give the top vega card away, there will always be lower entry cards from both AMD and NVidia but for the high end expect high prices, raja said he wants cheaper 4k gaming, did he mean now or the future? and the trend is to up the price, never seen a high end card come out cheaper than the one before it. the 980ti was an exception to the rule. I don't think NVidia will be doing the same this time to kill off titan XP sales.
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Raja was talking about Ryzen and Vega.

If this was going to be a Volta range cards coming I would be 100% confident in saying you are wrong, but it is just AMD brining competition finally. But I do not know enough about Vega or AMDs intentions and strategy. If they go for capturing market share, the price for performance we see today will drastically increase purely because Nvidia have had their way in this segment and it seems to me they have been able to maintain high profit margins.
 
TNA said:
But 1080 has been out for nearly a year. The only way the 1080 won't drop price is if Vega turns out to be pap or AMD decide to charge a lot for it and not improve on nvidia's price for performance. But how can that be when Raja himself said he wants to drastically lower the price of 4K gaming. Either Raja is talking out of his backside or people just spouting random numbers putting very little thought into it.

Every time a new card is coming out people seem to always go by and look at the current gen prices and completely forget the trend seen in the past :p
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EVGA and Gigabyte have both brought out new models recently that are priced between £650 and £720. Both these companies are making the 1080ti right now, so it doesn't make sense to discount those 1080's to £450 when the new card releases just weeks after they charged £200 more for a brand new model of 1080.

The EVGA step up facility will end up owing people money!

The only way those new models of 1080 make sense is if the 1080ti is £800+.

I do agree that a year old model should not be priced as it was on release, but that's where we seem to be these days.
 
Peeps should remember the tears when the 80 and 70 came out regarding price, I was sat here myself with my card ready to buy.....lolz

I will hope again, but won't hold my breathe :E
 
String said:
EVGA and Gigabyte have both brought out new models recently that are priced between £650 and £720. Both these companies are making the 1080ti right now, so it doesn't make sense to discount those 1080's to £450 when the new card releases just weeks after they charged £200 more for a brand new model of 1080.

The EVGA step up facility will end up owing people money!

The only way those new models of 1080 make sense is if the 1080ti is £800+.

I do agree that a year old model should not be priced as it was on release, but that's where we seem to be these days.
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I see what you are saying. But Vega probably will not come out until June which gives them time to keep selling it at that price. Plus I get the feeling that only a small percentage of people actually make use of the EVGA step up anyway.

One cannot always look at current prices and go by that when it comes to GPU's. If Vega is competitively priced like Raja alluded to and Nvidia start seeing their sales numbers go down, soon they will discount the 1080 price.

Going to try and wait myself until price for performance improves before my next upgrade. It will either hopefully come from Vega, or a little later from Volta. Not in a rush as I am all up to date with all the games I wanted to play. Hopefully with Vega/Volta we see 16/14nm truly shining and we can start see similar to Titan XP performance for £500 or less.

Oh and in before people say you will never see similar to Titan XP performance for under £500 any time soon (like they said about the Titan X). Just look back at what the 1070 did :p
 
TNA said:
I see what you are saying. But Vega probably will not come out until June which gives them time to keep selling it at that price. Plus I get the feeling that only a small percentage of people actually make use of the EVGA step up anyway.

One cannot always look at current prices and go by that when it comes to GPU's. If Vega is competitively priced like Raja alluded to and Nvidia start seeing their sales numbers go down, soon they will discount the 1080 price.

Going to try and wait myself until price for performance improves before my next upgrade. It will either hopefully come from Vega, or a little later from Volta. Not in a rush as I am all up to date with all the games I wanted to play. Hopefully with Vega/Volta we see 16/14nm truly shining and we can start see similar to Titan XP performance for £500 or less.

Oh and in before people say you will never see similar to Titan XP performance for under £500 any time soon (like they said about the Titan X). Just look back at what the 1070 did :p
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Didn't the release of 290X cause Nvidia to drop $150 off the price of a 780 (and out came the 780Ti) ? Hopefully AMD will have something really competitive and I can maybe replace these 970s :p
 
stooeh said:
Didn't the release of 290X cause Nvidia to drop $150 off the price of a 780 (and out came the 780Ti) ? Hopefully AMD will have something really competitive and I can maybe replace these 970s :p
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Correct. Every now and then AMD pull off a gem like the 4850, 5870, 7970 and 290x which causes Nvidia to drop their prices by £100 or so. It hasn't happened for a lot of years now. :(
 
stooeh said:
Didn't the release of 290X cause Nvidia to drop $150 off the price of a 780 (and out came the 780Ti) ? Hopefully AMD will have something really competitive and I can maybe replace these 970s :p
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Nvidia dropped the price of the 780 because it had to make room for the 780ti price between the Titan and the 780. It had very little to do with the 290x.
 
Greebo said:
Correct. Every now and then AMD pull off a gem like the 4850, 5870, 7970 and 290x which causes Nvidia to drop their prices by £100 or so. It hasn't happened for a lot of years now. :(
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Only the 48xx cards caused Nvidia to drop prices. AMD released the 7970 first, then dropped it's price after Nvidia released the 6xx cards. The 5870 was released 6 months before the 480/470 cards.
 
melmac said:
Nvidia dropped the price of the 780 because it had to make room for the 780ti price between the Titan and the 780. It had very little to do with the 290x.
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yes they did, but this time plenty of room between the 1080 and titan to slot in the 1080ti at 800+ and not discount anything
 
String said:
EVGA and Gigabyte have both brought out new models recently that are priced between £650 and £720.
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Wasn't there a class action suit in America - successful - about Nvidia dropping prices on 280s within less than 3 months of release? I think you may be right as there is precedent about just how quickly you can drop pri
 
stooeh said:
Didn't the release of 290X cause Nvidia to drop $150 off the price of a 780 (and out came the 780Ti) ? Hopefully AMD will have something really competitive and I can maybe replace these 970s :p
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There isn't any one reason for the 780 price drop - one aspect is that they moved onto a more efficient, cheaper to produce version of 28nm with the B1 revision cards.
 
With so close to a possible announcement on the 28th and release at end of march -- POTENTIALLY. I wonder when there'll be a leak of the reference Ti cooler like what we had on the 1080
 
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