**Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Thread**

[Griffildur]

There is another issue, well for me at least. I have no real choice other than sticking with the Green Team due to a huge investment in a 1440p G Sync monitor, with G Sync and Freesync you are now signing up to one or the other (unless you are loaded). So for many who are looking for an upgrade the 1080 TI is the only option for a good increase over the 980 TI

This is something I am personally prepared to try. I am like you, I have a 1440p Gsync monitor which was a big investment. Buying a second monitor ( Freesync ) should be a lot cheaper, I'd expect. Maybe that's an option. Of course someone who already has a Freesync screen is in a much worse position than us!

 

[orbitalwalsh]

https://videocardz.com/66177/nvidia-volta-gv100-spotted-in-the-drivers

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[Simon Belmont]

There's apparently a Pascal refresh this year, towards the end of year iirc - but that's just a "refinement" of the current architecture, so most likely just a bump in frequency.
New and next architecture is Volta, which we dont really have a time frame for, most likely be shown for the HED/Servers towards end of year where Nvidia host a convention iirc. But for consumers Volta, I THINK that will be next year, mid 2018

I was hoping to see Volta sooner rather then later? It could still happen? Nvidia could surprise us?

 

[Griffildur]

I was hoping to see Volta sooner rather then later? It could still happen? Nvidia could surprise us?

Feels a bit too early, we still haven't seen all cards from the current gen ( still waiting for TI ). Plus pretty sure Volta, on the roadmap, was scheduled for release at some point in 2018.

 

[TNA]

Would be great if it was Volta. But I am not holding my breath.

 

[Greebo]

Would be great if it was Volta. But I am not holding my breath.

It won;t be. Nvidia still has to milk to cash cow by doing a pascal refresh with higher clocks first.

 

[Doogles]

It won;t be. Nvidia still has to milk to cash cow by doing a pascal refresh with higher clocks first.

That won't be hard, just increase voltage and CUDA cores = win

There is another issue, well for me at least. I have no real choice other than sticking with the Green Team due to a huge investment in a 1440p G Sync monitor, with G Sync and Freesync you are now signing up to one or the other (unless you are loaded). So for many who are looking for an upgrade the 1080 TI is the only option for a good increase over the 980 TI

Get Freesync as it costs no extra, if you leave it sitting doing nothing then you don't feel too bad, I would rather G-Sync because NVidia will always have the best card out with AMD tailing, hopefully Vega will do something spectacular.

 

[wrenaudrey]

Yes, it would be nice to see Volta already but being realistic they've only really just literally released Pascal. I imagine going to a different architecture would take some time.
I think we still have more from Pascal, there are those giants chips from the quadro iirc, or even those ones going in to deep learning. Dont know if it's possible to take those chips and make in to GTX but no knows but nvidia eh

 

[Kaapstad]

I sometimes think people forget what GPUs are, they are tools. If you need one now go out and buy it, if you don't need one now save your money.

The discussion should never get to "do I wait for xxxx", you either need a GPU or you don't.

Having said that boys do like new toys........

 

[easyrider]

I sometimes think people forget what GPUs are, they are tools. If you need one now go out and buy it, if you don't need one now save your money.

The discussion should never get to "do I wait for xxxx", you either need a GPU or you don't.

Having said that boys do like new toys........

I don't agree often but this totally

Its not like volta is going to be cheaper than Pascal lol

Just get what you can afford at the time or wait around like a chump.

Fair enough if a release is a week away but its not, so waiting for a 1080ti @ £800 hoping 1080 prices will drop is madness.

Plenty of 1070's used at 300-320 around....Go for one of them.

 

[MissChief]

I sometimes think people forget what GPUs are, they are tools. If you need one now go out and buy it, if you don't need one now save your money.

The discussion should never get to "do I wait for xxxx", you either need a GPU or you don't.

Having said that boys do like new toys........

Very few people looking at this thread need a new GPU. They just like the 'new'.

 

[Dave2150]

I sometimes think people forget what GPUs are, they are tools. If you need one now go out and buy it, if you don't need one now save your money.

The discussion should never get to "do I wait for xxxx", you either need a GPU or you don't.

Having said that boys do like new toys........

I think it's best people just buy what they want, when they want.

Who are we to say what, why or when someone should buy a GPU?

If someone wants to wait for Vega, Volta or for 1080's to come down in price, let them. There is no crime

 

[TNA]

I don't agree often but this totally

Its not like volta is going to be cheaper than Pascal lol

Just get what you can afford at the time or wait around like a chump.

Fair enough if a release is a week away but its not, so waiting for a 1080ti @ £800 hoping 1080 prices will drop is madness.

Plenty of 1070's used at 300-320 around....Go for one of them.

I don't agree. Like usual

If one knows a new GPU is coming out in a month or two, then why not wait and get much better price for performance? I still remember all those guys who listened to easy and then the 1070/80 came out and they were very upset about their 980Ti purchase. Lol.

Way I see it is, a GPU upgrade is a want, not a need. There are plenty of things in life to do, waiting a couple of months is no big deal to get the new shiny tech.

Each to their own though, if one has money to burn, why not. Buy when you want and a buy again in a couple of months. Lol. Good for the economy I suppose? Lol.

 

[Wucked]

I don't agree. Like usual

If one knows a new GPU is coming out in a month or two, then why not wait and get much better price for performance? I still remember all those guys who listened to easy and then the 1070/80 came out and they were very upset about their 980Ti purchase. Lol.

Way I see it is, a GPU upgrade is a want, not a need. There are plenty of things in life to do, waiting a couple of months is no big deal to get the new shiny tech.

Each to their own though, if one has money to burn, why not. Buy when you want and a buy again in a couple of months. Lol. Good for the economy I suppose? Lol.

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There's no reason to be upset with a 980 Ti.

 

[TNA]

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There's no reason to be upset with a 980 Ti.

Was not me. I never purchased one. But others were. They spent £500-600 on one and then boom comes out a card beating it in every way, running cooler and more efficiently with more vram for the same price. Even worse could have got similar performance with a 1070 and saved a £200. So I can see why they would be upset.

 

[mahius]

Of course someone who already has a Freesync screen is in a much worse position than us!

What are you trying to say? I have a FreeSync monitor paired with an Nvidia GPU, but that doesn't matter. The FreeSync was just an extra free bonus with the screen, which I bought purely for the specs. It doesn't matter now and it wouldn't matter in the future if my next GPU was an Nvidia GPU. It would just be a nice bonus if I ever bought AMD. Heck, at least I didn't pay almost double the price for the G-sync version (seriously, the G-sync equivalent of my monitor is almost twice the price of the FreeSync counterpart).

That Nvidia doesn't support FreeSync is on them, FreeSync is opensource tech, free for use by anyone. Nvidia want people to buy G-sync and then feel like they have to buy Nvidia GPUs, since they feel 'locked in' to Nvidia. It's a cunning business move on their part, for them to make more money (as are most things companies do), but screwing over the consumer in the process.

I'm sure we'd all love it if we could buy a FreeSync monitor and it works with cards on both vendors. Me, I'm not fussed. I don't get screen-tearing anymore anyway (maybe the high refresh rate helps) and I don't ever intend to play games at lower framerates (some folks say that G-sync/FreeSync smooths up the FPS at lower FPS making it more tolerable).

Worst case scenario, if I ever really wanted a G-sync monitor, I'd buy one. Alas there's no G-sync monitor that currently exists which interests me. My next monitor will be a 4k monitor with 144Hz, whenever those eventually exist.

 

[Wucked]

Was not me. I never purchased one. But others were. They spent £500-600 on one and then boom comes out a card beating it in every way, running cooler and more efficiently with more vram for the same price. Even worse could have got similar performance with a 1070 and saved a £200. So I can see why they would be upset.

I understood what you were saying, just not why they were upset.

 

[Kaapstad]

I don't agree. Like usual

If one knows a new GPU is coming out in a month or two, then why not wait and get much better price for performance? I still remember all those guys who listened to easy and then the 1070/80 came out and they were very upset about their 980Ti purchase. Lol.

Way I see it is, a GPU upgrade is a want, not a need. There are plenty of things in life to do, waiting a couple of months is no big deal to get the new shiny tech.

Each to their own though, if one has money to burn, why not. Buy when you want and a buy again in a couple of months. Lol. Good for the economy I suppose? Lol.

This is just the problem we don't know for sure when GPUs are coming out.

A good example is the 1080 Ti, when the Pascal Titan launched at the beginning of August 2016 people said wait for the Ti as it will be out in a couple of months and yet here we are and no one knows for sure when it will arrive 6 months later. Worse still since then NVidia have increased the price of the Pascal Titan meaning that when the 1080 Ti does turn up people could be paying close to the original Pascal Titan price for it. As to anyone who bought a Pascal Titan 6 months ago they will still have a card that is worth more than the 1080 Ti when it does eventually turn up.

 

[TNA]

I understood what you were saying, just not why they were upset.

I see. Pretty obvious I would have thought.

This is just the problem we don't know for sure when GPUs are coming out.

A good example is the 1080 Ti, when the Pascal Titan launched at the beginning of August 2016 people said wait for the Ti as it will be out in a couple of months and yet here we are and no one knows for sure when it will arrive 6 months later. Worse still since then NVidia have increased the price of the Pascal Titan meaning that when the 1080 Ti does turn up people could be paying close to the original Pascal Titan price for it. As to anyone who bought a Pascal Titan 6 months ago they will still have a card that is worth more than the 1080 Ti when it does eventually turn up.

In my opinion most times it is not very hard to tell a new card is coming. We know when Vega is coming for example, have done for ages. We knew the 10 series was coming. Sure there are times when people get it wrong like in your example above, but most times new cards are not far away if the old range has been oout for 12-18 months, would you not agree?

Horses for courses. I always opt for the wait option personally, as it suits and serves me well. It has done well for me for over a decade now. All the graphics a cards I have had over the years have cost me less than a price of a titan as I buy and sell at the right time. It is fun to do also

 

[Kaapstad]

I see. Pretty obvious I would have thought.





In my opinion most times it is not very hard to tell a new card is coming. We know when Vega is coming for example, have done for ages. We knew the 10 series was coming. Sure there are times when people get it wrong like in your example above, but most times new cards are not far away if the old range has been oout for 12-18 months, would you not agree?

Horses for courses. I always opt for the wait option personally, as it suits and serves me well. It has done well for me for over a decade now. All the graphics a cards I have had over the years have cost me less than a price of a titan as I buy and sell at the right time. It is fun to do also

You right when you say Vega is coming but that is about it.

We still don't know exactly when.

We also don't know if it will be a low end, mid range or high end card either.

When Vega does eventually turn up Pascal Titan owners will have had nearly a full years use out of their cards and they still won't have to worry about upgrading.