Soldato
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I really doubt a 1080 Ti is on the cards this soon.
1090? (2x1080)?
1090? (2x1080)?
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**Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Thread**
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Why? All cards less then 2 weeks old so can be returned for full refund if required.
It would be mad of Nvidia to release a 1080ti within a fortnight of Titan so they can all return for refunds
Nvidia had a useful presentation of a looming memory crisis. that had a nice chart of memory bandwidth vs power consumption. HBM was kind of irrelevant next to GDDR5X, HBM2 made a big stride but within 1 or 2 generations would also become far too power hungry so it was really just a stop gap.
Soldato
Lets start making predictions every week that "next" month the 1080Ti going to be announced. By that time, no NV cards going to be sold, because of the imminent messiah. err NO.
You do forget that it will take 4-5 months until the next Pascal card?
Also Gibbo has said that current GTX1080 orders, going to be fulfilled in 45-90 days!!!!!
NV are not that stupid to kill a cash cow. Unfortunately AMD is -_-
You do forget that it will take 4-5 months until the next Pascal card?
Also Gibbo has said that current GTX1080 orders, going to be fulfilled in 45-90 days!!!!!
NV are not that stupid to kill a cash cow. Unfortunately AMD is -_-
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It really is sounding like 1080Ti release to me because the Titan X Pascal is only sold by Nvidia and they don't want to upset the retailers and aftermarket card makers so releasing the 1080Ti to them, while Nvidia sell the TXP.
Also JayzTwoCents just said on the live stream he was invited to the London event 3 months ago. So sounds like a planned release. Also he mentioned $899 price ....for the 1080Ti. Who knows.
So looking at a £830 inc VAT+ price.. If that is the case they can keep them.. and will wait for Volta and by then they will realise no one will buy their top tier cards at these silly prices and same goes for the 1080's... I don't believe the sales figures of the 1080's... They are deliberately making it look like a 1080 GPU shortage and reality is this is all part of the hype to raise prices.
Also JayzTwoCents just said on the live stream he was invited to the London event 3 months ago. So sounds like a planned release. Also he mentioned $899 price ....for the 1080Ti. Who knows.
So looking at a £830 inc VAT+ price.. If that is the case they can keep them.. and will wait for Volta and by then they will realise no one will buy their top tier cards at these silly prices and same goes for the 1080's... I don't believe the sales figures of the 1080's... They are deliberately making it look like a 1080 GPU shortage and reality is this is all part of the hype to raise prices.
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Soldato
I find it really odd that a 1080 Ti might be released even though the 1080 was only released 2 months ago.
This is a good way to pee off customers and lose customers in the process.
I dont see how it would pee off customers, Most people realised the 1080 wouldnt be Nvidia's fastest card forever. Ti if it appears will simply be another tier and appeal to a different range of customers, More choice imo is a good thing
Soldato
A lot of people have just bought 1080's thinking something like the 1080 Ti wouldn't be out until the end of the year following the release schedule of the 780 Ti and 980 Ti.
Doesn't make a difference to me as I'm not getting it either way but I can see how someone would be slightly miffed.
Lose customers? To whom?
You think a normal thinking person will suddenly throw a hissy fit, sell his/her (already overpriced) 1080 GTX or his/her (grossly overpriced) Titan X at a massive loss and get an inferior card? Yea, that'll show Nvidia!
No, they'll announce the Ti, it'll be sold out constantly for months on end.
You forget that people that buy these cards don't really think with their wallets. They react on impulse. Something shinier comes along, they'll have a good old girly whine for show .... and then get that pre-order in double quick.
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They won't be losing any customers. There won't be enough cards to go around anyway. Create an artificial shortage, etc etc.
At this stage they can release a new card every month and it'll sell out instantly.
Man of Honour
Gibbo has just got himself some Pascal Titans for personal use.
Do you think he would have bothered if there was a 1080 Ti about to come out !!!!
Do you think he would have bothered if there was a 1080 Ti about to come out !!!!
Soldato
Given how much he earns, and could just shove it on b-grade, maybe purchased through the company ex-vat etc. It's certainly possible!
However, I don't think the 1080ti will be this month. Hope to be proved wrong.
Man of Honour
I agree, I don't think we will see the 1080ti anytime soon.
One thing people are missing about the Pascal Titan launch are the cards are in short supply. This could mean that NVidia don't have any spare GP102 chips available for the 1080ti.
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Not neccesserarily true if they have good yields on chips that can't do the titans 3584 cuda cores then I'm sure if they can get away with charging £800+ instead of sub £700 in 3-4 months when amd has something around the corner I'm sure they'll choose the former milk those profits
Man of Honour
Any less cores than the Titan and the card won't be much better than a 1080.
Then the argument about saving money by getting a 1070 instead of the 1080 will come into play with people buying the 1080 instead of the very overpriced 1080ti.
I know people really want to see the 1080 Ti launch but it has to be a viable card. A cut down Pascal Titan does not leave enough to make the 1080ti viable.
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The 1080Ti will be great for guys like me that just couldn't jump to the 1080 for such a small increase. The cut in ROPs/Cuda cores vs big Maxwell didn't rock my world also, even though it's faster because of the high clock speed. My old Titan X at 1400MHz isn't much slower than the 1080.
Real high end Memory Bandwidth/ROPs etc of a 1080Ti will be very appealing and as I'll be getting a factory OCd version that could possibly bring it up to 10% closer to the Titan X Pascal.
What we're missing here is that there were some who couldn't resist jumping on the 1080, even with dual 980Tis and Titan X cards, though the increase was far from monumental. What chance have they got of resisting the real high end spec card then? Same thing with those that jumped on 1080s and still couldn't resist the £1100 Titan X. If NVIDIA release the 1080Ti, there will be plenty of people that can't control themselves from pressing the buy button. Especially if cards with high factory OCs are within touching distance of the £1100 stock Titan X in all the benchmarks.
Real high end Memory Bandwidth/ROPs etc of a 1080Ti will be very appealing and as I'll be getting a factory OCd version that could possibly bring it up to 10% closer to the Titan X Pascal.
What we're missing here is that there were some who couldn't resist jumping on the 1080, even with dual 980Tis and Titan X cards, though the increase was far from monumental. What chance have they got of resisting the real high end spec card then? Same thing with those that jumped on 1080s and still couldn't resist the £1100 Titan X. If NVIDIA release the 1080Ti, there will be plenty of people that can't control themselves from pressing the buy button. Especially if cards with high factory OCs are within touching distance of the £1100 stock Titan X in all the benchmarks.
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Again it all comes down to how much you are willing to spend.
So you have the 1080 at £600 which is 20% faster than your Titan and you say that isnt enough.
You then have the Titan x which is another 20% faster than the 1080 so 44% faster than your Titan but you arent prepared to spend £1100.
So lets say a 1080ti comes out which is 10% slower than the current titan x. I would expect that to be around £800 to £850.
So if you werent willing to pay £600 for a 20% gain or £1100 for a 44% gain, why all of a sudden are you willing to pay £800 to £850 for a 30% gain in performance?
