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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080Ti to be "available" on June 3rd, RTX 3070Ti on June 10th

Dave2150 said:
Nvidia will not cater to you - they'll just make their FE cards. If you want one, you'll get a suitable case, or open bench.
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And just how many AIBs are catering to people in need of dual slot only?

Most of the triple slot ones are overkill for the cooling anyway, I'd happily choose lower boost temps or slightly louder fans to have a dual slot one.
 
ceeK said:
They'd definitely need to make more than just the FE if they did this. The FE design is an absolute no go in my sandwich layout case despite how nice it looks :(
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The FE cards are about the ONLY ones that would fit surely? Except the 3090, all the FE cards tend to be the smallest in there class.
I mean even the 3080Ti is strictly 2-slot.

Not sure any of the 30-sieres AIB cards are 2-slotters? (All tend to be at least 2ish right? or 2.5... so cant actually fit a card directly below)

And yea.... if nVidia DID go the route of FEs only.... people would just need to lump it. They could fit an aftermarket cooler maybe to fit a really specific case?
 
BallistixOnZ490 said:
Right now I wouldn't mind that because the RTX 3000 series FE's are actually brilliant
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Really? Everything I've seen suggests that they are too slow, too hot, too noisy, and last gen they were all bloody faulty. If AIB cards were reasonable value there'd be no competition. When AIB 3080s challenge 3090FEs in game benchmarks questions need to be asked.
 
ScottiB said:
Really? Everything I've seen suggests that they are too slow, too hot, too noisy, and last gen they were all bloody faulty. If AIB cards were reasonable value there'd be no competition. When AIB 3080s challenge 3090FEs in game benchmarks questions need to be asked.
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Todays 3070Ti launch reviews would agree with you on the hot and noisy part (especially the HOT part, shoving GDDR6X with a standard 3070 cooler = winner that idea)
 
ScottiB said:
Really? Everything I've seen suggests that they are too slow, too hot, too noisy, and last gen they were all bloody faulty. If AIB cards were reasonable value there'd be no competition. When AIB 3080s challenge 3090FEs in game benchmarks questions need to be asked.
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My 3080FE ran slightly audible in games, no loud, no silent, ran between 60-70 which is perfectly acceptable, only ran toasty on the memory when mining. Their performance was on par with any other 3080.
 
willhub said:
My 3080FE ran slightly audible in games, no loud, no silent, ran between 60-70 which is perfectly acceptable, only ran toasty on the memory when mining. Their performance was on par with any other 3080.
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It's more to do with how they run overall, boost speeds pale in comparison to many AIB cards and they AIB cards manage to hot those speeds and maintain cooler, quieter performance.

Nvidia's "Style" of cooler limits what they can get out of a really good GPU and I'd almost certainly revisit custom watercooling my GPU as well as my CPU if all I could get was FE.
 
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awww man I've had some toasty GPUs over the years but then again I was always drawn to the AMD dual GPU cards so that's to be expected. In recent years I've gone for the biggest, coolest thing I can find, probably influenced by my time at MSI during the peak Lightning/Twin Frozr period, before they went back to plastic coolers.

I've seen some awful cards over the years including an XFX one which could reach 105C under heavy use in warm conditions and immediately shut off, never to awaken.
 
Crazy how weak the numbers are on the 3070 vs Ti - that GDDRX6 is doing literally nothing (except making the card run hotter) - adding insult to injury, the GDDR6 on the 3070 runs cool and overclocks like crazy (my MSI 3070 is running at 2040 Mhz boost vs FE stock 1725 and the GGDR6 is running 2025 vs FE stock 1750).
 
ScottiB said:
Really? Everything I've seen suggests that they are too slow, too hot, too noisy, and last gen they were all bloody faulty. If AIB cards were reasonable value there'd be no competition. When AIB 3080s challenge 3090FEs in game benchmarks questions need to be asked.
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This ^^^
The only FE card worth a suitable cooler is the lowest model they do, the 3060ti. The cooling does not scale well as you go up the product stack.

On the flip side, the overall build quality is leagues ahead, the AIB cards generally look cheap and flimsy and are prone to monumental sagging.
 
ScottiB said:
Really? Everything I've seen suggests that they are too slow, too hot, too noisy, and last gen they were all bloody faulty. If AIB cards were reasonable value there'd be no competition. When AIB 3080s challenge 3090FEs in game benchmarks questions need to be asked.
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Only because the 3090 is only approx 10% quicker at twice the price over the 3080.
No AIB 3070 comes close to a 3080 FE.
 
Rup said:
Only because the 3090 is only approx 10% quicker at twice the price over the 3080.
No AIB 3070 comes close to a 3080 FE.
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yes but since 10% is a big jump in graphics card terms and my point was about FE performance vs AIB performance, the point still stands firm. It's just a shame about the relative pricing atm. On a purely price performance basis the FE stands up very well but I'd be really tempted to buy a waterblock and push the 2000Mhz mark.

Nvidia's obsession with sleek cooler designs, arguably style over function, is limiting the performance of their GPUs. At least they didn't make the mistake of cheaping out on the memory this gen.
 
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