Nvidia to support Freesync?

BubbySoup · 17 Jan 2019 at 19:21

Why are they being called G-Sync compatible? Where does the compatability bit fit into the process? A1080ti card plugged into a freesync screen is just using the adaptive refresh rate. There's no G-Sync involved as there is no G-Sync module in the setup.

It feels like marketing BS just to keep the G-Sync name/brand alive.

IT Troll · 17 Jan 2019 at 19:27

BubbySoup said:
Why are they being called G-Sync compatible? Where does the compatability bit fit into the process? A1080ti card plugged into a freesync screen is just using the adaptive refresh rate. There's no G-Sync involved as there is no G-Sync module in the setup.

It feels like marketing BS just to keep the G-Sync name/brand alive.

No different to FreeSync in that regard.

Shaz12 · 17 Jan 2019 at 19:32

Gerard said:
Might want to ask nvidia for that, according to them 388 out of 400 failed their "testing".

Considering they had min requrements of 2.4:1 for the refresh range, a good chunk must have failed without even testing them.

BubbySoup · 17 Jan 2019 at 19:47

IT Troll said:
No different to FreeSync in that regard.

It kind of is because G-Sync is synonymous with a physical module which is the reason that technology works. There's no compatability happening at all because the module is not there to be compatible with.

IT Troll · 17 Jan 2019 at 19:59

LoadsaMoney said:

Nice video, demonstrates the value of a "narrow" 40-60 VRR for 4K gaming. Very happy to have 4K HDR "G-Sync" without needing to drop £2K+ on a monitor with a leaf-blower.

Gerard · 17 Jan 2019 at 20:06

Shaz12 said:
Considering they had min requrements of 2.4:1 for the refresh range, a good chunk must have failed without even testing them.

Their testing is laughable and constructed to make freesync panels look inferior in comparison.

Davanius · 17 Jan 2019 at 22:04

From what my monitor refresh counter is telling me, you may want to cap the frames with a good margin because the fps bounces around quite a bit.

It bounces a lot more than it does with an AMD card.

I am seeing up to 10 fps so capping just under the limit may not be the best way.

Just a heads up for those with a Samsung CHG70.

bru · 17 Jan 2019 at 22:08

BubbySoup said:
Why are they being called G-Sync compatible? Where does the compatability bit fit into the process? A1080ti card plugged into a freesync screen is just using the adaptive refresh rate. There's no G-Sync involved as there is no G-Sync module in the setup.

It feels like marketing BS just to keep the G-Sync name/brand alive.

Of course it is and Too be honest you cannot blame them at all.

JeepersCreepers · 17 Jan 2019 at 22:52

Having some issues with my set up, got a nice aoc freesync 2 monitor for Christmas, installed the new drivers and was hoping for the best.

Straight away in a game there is a sort of pulsating of the brightness, one momwnt it looks fine, then it gets brighter for a brief moment, then back to normal, over and over again.

So I turned off gsync, everything back to normal, however upon my next boot up, windows just hard locks, so booted into safe mode and uninstalled the driver, then reinstalled it, everything fine, until I try gsync again, which will just crash the system on boot.

The driver itself works fine without gsync, so guess it just doesn't agree with something.

Oh well, hope everyone else is enjoying it

melmac · 18 Jan 2019 at 15:53

Gerard said:
Their testing is laughable and constructed to make freesync panels look inferior in comparison.

It is a complete joke. If Freesync isn't enabled by default on the monitor it's classed as a fail by the Nvidia tests. :rolleyes:

Rroff · 18 Jan 2019 at 15:59

melmac said:
It is a complete joke. If Freesync isn't enabled by default on the monitor it's classed as a fail by the Nvidia tests.

I'm guessing they are obstinately adhering to the adaptive sync spec and technically a FreeSync option on the monitor itself isn't as per the standard.

henson0115 · 18 Jan 2019 at 16:37

Rroff said:
I'm guessing they are obstinately adhering to the adaptive sync spec and technically a FreeSync option on the monitor itself isn't as per the standard.

neither is a switch in the driver but that is still in all solutions atm

ltron · 18 Jan 2019 at 16:58

JeepersCreepers said:
Having some issues with my set up, got a nice aoc freesync 2 monitor for Christmas, installed the new drivers and was hoping for the best.

Straight away in a game there is a sort of pulsating of the brightness, one momwnt it looks fine, then it gets brighter for a brief moment, then back to normal, over and over again.

So I turned off gsync, everything back to normal, however upon my next boot up, windows just hard locks, so booted into safe mode and uninstalled the driver, then reinstalled it, everything fine, until I try gsync again, which will just crash the system on boot.

The driver itself works fine without gsync, so guess it just doesn't agree with something.

Oh well, hope everyone else is enjoying it

Which monitor is this?

Zeed · 18 Jan 2019 at 19:21

IT Troll said:
Nice video, demonstrates the value of a "narrow" 40-60 VRR for 4K gaming. Very happy to have 4K HDR "G-Sync" without needing to drop £2K+ on a monitor with a leaf-blower.

Thats me I game on 32 inch 4k monitor well cant say Gsync would be worth the extra ********* on top of what I paid. But with blackfriday deal I'w gotten ITS GREAT !!!

Nasher · 18 Jan 2019 at 19:22

melmac said:
It is a complete joke. If Freesync isn't enabled by default on the monitor it's classed as a fail by the Nvidia tests.

Nvidia just doesn't want to admit that gsync is redundant. They are clinging on to it as long as possible.

Cromulent · 18 Jan 2019 at 19:24

Sorry but I can't go back and read all eight pages of this thread, but I was wondering if my monitor is likely to be supported at any time soon on a 1080Ti?

I have the LG 27UK650 Freesync monitor. It would be pretty awesome if I just got a little bit of support in the future.

Gerard · 18 Jan 2019 at 19:29

Nasher said:
Nvidia just doesn't want to admit that gsync is redundant. They are clinging on to it as long as possible.

Funny how a module is no longer required as well. I really doubt there's much if any difference between a gsync monitor with a module and a decent freesync screen, well besides the obnoxious price premium.

Rroff · 18 Jan 2019 at 19:30

Nasher said:
Nvidia just doesn't want to admit that gsync is redundant. They are clinging on to it as long as possible.

It isn't redundant - not without a new adaptive sync spec anyhow - without additional hardware at the monitor adaptive sync can't handle lower framerates in the same fashion as the G-Sync module or give the same level of compatibility for non-exclusive fullscreen modes (something FreeSync still struggles with). Also easier to implement adaptive overdrive systems for enhanced motion clarity, etc.

Adaptive sync currently misused a feature called Panel Self-Refresh to function and while it works it has more limitations than using a dedicated module - I suspect future evolutions of the DP standard will overcome some/all of them.

Some people might care more than others.

Kaapstad · 18 Jan 2019 at 19:41

Rroff said:
It isn't redundant - not without a new adaptive sync spec anyhow - without additional hardware at the monitor adaptive sync can't handle lower framerates in the same fashion as the G-Sync module or give the same level of compatibility for non-exclusive fullscreen modes (something FreeSync still struggles with). Also easier to implement adaptive overdrive systems for enhanced motion clarity, etc.

Adaptive sync currently misused a feature called Panel Self-Refresh to function and while it works it has more limitations than using a dedicated module - I suspect future evolutions of the DP standard will overcome some/all of them.

Some people might care more than others.

I don't use either G-Sync or Freesync so know little about them.

My question is would it be in AMDs interests to enable their cards to run on G-Sync monitors in the same way NVidia are doing with Freesync?

Could this give people running older NVidia cards an upgrade path to the latest AMD cards?

Rroff · 18 Jan 2019 at 19:53

Kaapstad said:
I don't use either G-Sync or Freesync so know little about them.

My question is would it be in AMDs interests to enable their cards to run on G-Sync monitors in the same way NVidia are doing with Freesync?

Could this give people running older NVidia cards an upgrade path to the latest AMD cards?

The G-Sync module uses a custom protocol, with some security features, not sure how easily it can be reverse engineered or utilised without nVidia's cooperation.