You'll probably find that by the time the 5000 series rolls around Nvidia will want another 700 notes off you for a card that's 20% faster and you wont have much choice but to pay up as new unreal 5 games are running like a slideshow.
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OcUK RTX4070 review thread
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A fair chance the 7800XT will be a more power efficient 6900XT then...
Soldato
Yeah left me laughing that one. Bought a Strix OC LC 7 months ago for £720. Every one told me I was stupid. So I could have waited, not gamed and saved £20 a month. My card isn't gimped either.
And Humbug - yup.
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This purely depends on how much they charge for the 4070 in the UK which we don't know yet as everything is still pre-order. But based on Hardware Unboxed recent video on video memory the 6800xt seams like a very good value as it looks like more memory is a good thing going forward. If it's a lower price than the 4070 it also performed better in more games than the 4070 did. While stocks last if the price continue to reduce and your in the market for a sub £600 card the 6800xt is clearly the better choice. Of course dependent on UK pricing.
You can buy a 6950xt for £640 now brand new from online retailers, if the 4070 comes at over £600 you would actually be stupid to buy a 4070.
The problem is this is an open goal... we all know how AMD perform there lol.
I'm actually the target market for Nvidia with this card (1080ti user) I can buy a 6950xt new for £640... almost bought one 2nd hand for £500 the other day. It's really tempting to go with last gen, but at the moment the 1080ti is still performing well (even with a 4k monitor) so while I would love one, i'm gonna hold out longer. Could back fire but oh well.
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An AIB 6950 XT at £640 (new)… what a bargain compared to the 4070 FE. The AMD card is so much faster.
The 4070 FE MSRP is £589/£599.
The 4070 FE MSRP is £589/£599.
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Yep you found the one I was talking about the Red Devil, they also had the Sapphire Nitro+ for that price but it's EOL now.
We also know you need to add £100 min to that price for AIB, so AIB 4070 for £700 or a 6950XT AIB for £640....
I mean.. how can you even argue that.
Caporegime
I've got a 2 year old RX6800 I bought for £600 from OCUK, I bet there's loads of people in a similar boat.
Nvidia could have possible convinced us to upgrade at say £500.
But at £600 it's loltastic.
Nvidia could have possible convinced us to upgrade at say £500.
But at £600 it's loltastic.
A 6950xt isn't "so much faster" though is it..? It's about 10 to 15% faster on average...and it's nearly 10% more expensive (comparing cheapest for cheapest).
Then the 4070 is faster in ray tracing, has DLSS3 and is massively more efficient.
It isn't a clear cut choice at all and if anything I think the 4070 is the more appealing buy of the two...
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Caporegime
My take is neither are enticing.
Pricing last generation cards up against current generation cards and having them scale up in price/performance is a fail for me.
Agreed.
The notion in some of the past few posts that AMD have anything clearly and objectively better at this price point right now is clearly wrong though.
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I wouldn't 'upgrade' a 6800 to a 4070 for 20 quid, from HUB's 6800 v 3070 video it'll probably end up faster
Soldato
Except other than Digital Shilleries that IS the consensus from the tech sites, with the 4070, Nvidia have again given AMD an open goal with the 7800XT.
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On a 2080 myself, i think i wil struggle on for another year and go big on a 5090 and oled monitor
Soldato
I never stay on the PC travelator. It isn't worth it. At some point you have to step off, or just give up on it tbh. The 6950XT is a belting card.
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Crazy how this is hardly faster than a 2080Ti !!!!!!!!!
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I think if £500 was the AIB price sure, but if that was MRSP then it would still be closer to £600 for AIB then it's still just a sidegrade rather than an upgrade.
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The 4070 is £599 MRSP realisitally AIB will be much closer to £699.... you can LITERALLY buy a 6950x for £640... so you are 10-15% faster for 10% lower price. 6950xt is clearly the better choice. On top of that Hardware Unboxed demonstrated the 3070 vs the 6800xt 8gb vs 16gb in Video Memory, the 4070 12gb vs a 6950xt 16gb we already know which will age better as games use more and more video memory.
Sure you can make the DLSS3 argument to sell the 4070 but at the end of the day when games start using more memory you will need those fake frames to stay close to the 6950xts real frames.
It bewilders me how people can make the argument when you have a card that's cheaper and faster (albiet last gen) yeh... but ... but... fake frames. I mean dude come on.
As someone with a 4k 144hz monitor I badly want too. but no card can really hit that 144fps constant yet not even the 4090. You are right though I do need to get off, but at the moment i've been going through some of my older Steam games as i've probably bought under 10 games in the last 3 years (not including the odd humble bundle month i forgot to pause) so it's more of a want than a need. As soon as a blinding single player RPG comes out that I really want I might jump the prices are about where I want them to be for last gen cards now, but I just need something to push me.
TBF it fits the trends. 10 series an absolute blinder of gen to gen performance, 20 series meh, 30 series an absolute blinder gen to gen, 40 series excluding the 4090 is meh gen to gen, if you go by perf to dollar gen to gen the 4090 re-enters at meh, because while it's an absolute monstrosity for performance you pay 50% more for 50% more so there's no gen to gen increase it's just more for more.
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Yup, the smart play is to make it last then go 5080/90
No. The cheapest 4070 will be £589 and the cheapest 6950xt is currently £50 more.
The 6950xt has 10-15% more base perf and 4gb more vram.
The 4070 has vastly better efficiency, DLSS3 and better ray tracing performance.
I'd still probably go for the 4070 and save myself £50 and a bit on the electricity bill.
The problem is Timo Werner hits the target more often than AMD.
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I forgot, the 6950 XT draws a lot more power. The power efficiency is very good with these 40 series.
Less power = less heat, lower fan speed, etc.